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Old 05-24-07, 05:03 AM   #1
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Oregon Logistics Questions (Last Minute Rush)

We booked our flight and a room for our arrival in Portland, but have not worked out ground travel plans. We fly into Portland June 9th and arrive at PDX 11:16 PM. We have a room booked near the airport.

For a variety of reasons that I won't go into here, we will be flying with our bikes. My big concern now is how to get to our start with our bikes. I think we would like to start in Newport so we can ride down the coast to our official starting point at Florence. Ideally I would like to rent a van or some other vehicle that can carry the three of us and our bikes and drop it off in Newport. A few quick searches online turned up no available vehicles.

Any tips on how we can get to Newport or some other reasonable starting point for our transamerica?

Buses, trains, rental vehicles, rides from sympathetic cyclists local to the area (if someone can help we would pay expenses +), etc. are all ok with us. If train or bus, will the airline boxes work out or do they have different requirements?

If we can't figure anything else out can you suggest a good route to ride out of Portland and wind up in Florence?
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Old 05-24-07, 07:24 AM   #2
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Uhaul - there's a rental place w/in 3 miles of the airport, you can definitely drop off in Astoria, you'll have to check with them for other locations.
One Way Rental Car - at the airport
Craigslist.org rideshare - good luck, but it works surprisingly well. make sure to use the Portland edition.
Post an emergency help-wanted request on crazyguyonabike.com's classified.
There is a bus/train option from portland to astoria, but the schedule is so sparse it would probably be faster (and definitely more fun) to ride. I remember there was some logistical challenge that made me not do that - something about timing and boxes and cabs, oh my!

Ride your bike out of the airport and to the coast on rte 30, (river road, mostly flat), then follow the PCH bike route signs until you get to Florence. (I have done this road, it is fine - busy-ish for the first 20-30 miles or so out of portland, but with a good shoulder). 1.5 days from portland to Astoria, there is an OK RV park on the river in between (closer to the portland side, at the nuclear power station ) It would be easy to fly into portland in the late morning, put your bikes together, and ride to that campground. The coast is easy riding, seriously, no need to sweat a bike map (you probably have an oregon map w/you anyway, that will do fine) just follow the bike route signs, there is lots of camping (hiker/bikers at state parks) and you'll go past the Tillamook Chees factory, which is worth touring and definitely worth snacking at (ice cream!). To actually get to that route, just get a map at the airport from one of the gazillion rental car places and ask someone to show you on that map.

I also know there is another farther-south route to the coast which is OK, looking at the map shows 2 possiblilities, I don't kwow which is better. Can't remember which was recommended to me - thinking it was Rte 26. You could certainly call any bike shop in portland and ask them, they will know which is safer/mor fun.

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I saw your post over at adv.cycling, and have to add... I totally understand your desire to not accrue extra days off w/o pay... but on a trip this length, it is really nice to NOT have a tight schedule to adhere to. If I were you I would just let things take as long as they take, not put too much pressure on yourself for time, and midway through, if you are not making the distance you need to finish on time, make a decision about how to handle it - skip some yucky section by taking a ride, make an arrangement with work, stop early and complete the last bit next year, ride a shorter route to the coast.... but if you hurry the whole entire way, you will miss so much. The desire to "have done a coast to coast" is very strong, and it's a very powerful statement to get to make, but it's too much actual time spent doing it to make the "what you say afterwards" part the top priority. The important part is the experience of actually being in the moment, the whole time. Don't rip yourself off by being in a hurry.

Good luck with your logistics, and don't panic!

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I'm sure the van would be easier.
But more expensive.

Amtrak has a thruway bus that connects at Albany.
Bus:
D - Portland - 11:15a
A - Albany - 12:55p
Bus:
D - Albany - 2:25p
A - Newport - 4:00p

You can either check your bikes or use roll-on/roll-off.
Double check with Amtrak as to availability of both.

There are additional charges.
Although Amtrak long-distance trains tend to run really late -
Their thruway busses tend to be on time.

My guess is that it wouldn't save that much money -
What with tickets and bike charges.
Plus you have to get downtown to Portland Union Station.
And the van would be a lot less hassle.
But if the van falls thru - this can be Plan "B".

PS - I see that you are planning to ride the Yachats coast.
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PS - I checked into Amtrak - looks like tickets woudl cost $37 each plus $10 each for bikes so that's already $150 - then there are tickets and the hassle of getting downtown with your bikes - unless you use some kind of taxi/van shuttle - another $30 or $40. I'm guessing that the total cost of getting the three of you to Newport by bus would be about $200.

The shortest way to Newport - not the best - is 120 miles - so it would add at least 1 1/2 days to your trip to bike there - more likely 2 days. There's a quiet way thru the Willamette Valley. Take city bike routes south to Champoeg State Park - then down to the ferry at Maud Williamson Park. Then back roads to Monmouth (college town) and Valsetz Road over the Coast Range to the coast.

They used to have a state-published booklet on Willamette Valley bike routes - it's not online, but any bike shop will have one that you can at least copy. The Valley has great riding, but you have to plan your camping carefully or else stay in motels.
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PPS - Hey, I checked on this website - http://www.ghosttowns.com/states/or/valsetz.html

It seems the Valsetz Road is private - open to the public on weekends. Can't remember if I used it on a weekend or had difficulty reading the signs that day. Of course, I would NEVER break the law. To be on the safe side you can continue down the Willamette Valley to Corvallis and cut across on Hwy 34 to Waldport - - all legal.
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Thanks for the great info.
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They used to have a state-published booklet on Willamette Valley bike routes - it's not online, but any bike shop will have one that you can at least copy. The Valley has great riding, but you have to plan your camping carefully or else stay in motels.
Anyone have a copy of this booklet that they could send a scan of?
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Check out the Tillamook bus:
http://www.tillamookbus.com/

I haven't ridden it, but I've kept it in mind for a "Plan B" to get to/from the coast. The website says all their buses have bikeracks. Tillamook ain't Newport, but it's halfway there from Portland. And the Tillamook bus even connects as far south as Pacific City. Besides, from Tillamook south is the nicest part of the Oregon coast...

I'll be out of town that weekend, otherwise I'd be happy to help...

Have a great trip!

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I've got one - maybe 1988 ??
Gotta hunt for it.
Want me to scan routes?

I suspect that the routes are 99% the same.
The only difference would be that all roads have more traffic.
The back are still the back roads.
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I've scanned the northwest corner of the Oregon State Bike Map -
Don't know why it's not available on line.
Plus a rather dated Willamette Valley route.

Send me a personal message with your e-mail and I'll forward them to you.
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Hey -

Do you know that there is an airport shuttle to Corvallis and Eugene?
It's $48 per person to Corvallis.
http://www.portlandairportshuttle.com/
My guess is that a Sat evening shuttle will be nearly empty -
So the bikes and gear shouldn't be a problem.

You could take an evening shuttle and get a motel in Corvallis.
Then either ride to the coast or take the bus shuttle.
3 bikes and a bus are awkward. I think the bus is set up for two.
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...the three of us ...
Oh. Missed that beforehand.

Yeh, three bikes on a bus bikerack isn't gonna work. Even with two, you have to keep your fingers crossed that some other rider(s) didn't get on before you. Especially when the bus runs once a day...

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As long as we are doing this homework... Uhaul is $231, airport to Florence. But you do have to buy ga$.
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I got a rental reserved from Enterprise. Mid size SUV, pick up at airport (Sunday 10 AM), drop off in Newport (Monday 7:30 AM), $132.69. In Portland they will be closed Saturday when I get there and Newport is closed Sunday (open 7:30 Monday).

Any suggestion on where to stay in Newport Sunday night, before we start our trip Monday morning?
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South Beach State Park, just south of town, according to my biking the pacific coast book, has hiker biker sites.

5580 S Coast Hwy
South Beach, OR 97366

(541) 867-7451 -
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But since you will be vehicular - you will need to reserve a campsite ASAP
Or one of the yurts.
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This will be a good start:
Econo Lodge
Rated 5.0 out of 5.0 10 reviews
606 SW Coast Hwy
Newport, OR 97365
(541) 265-7723
(541) 574-6138
choicehotels.com

Make a reservation now, Newport fills up fast for summer, and expect to pay east coast prices, it's supply and demand in Newport. You can also google Shilo Inn, they are big and right on the beach.

Have fun, you'll enjoy the riding in Oregon!
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We reserved a yurt in South Beach State Park for Sunday night. I was pleasantly surprised they had one available.
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Just picked up on this thread...

I live in Newport, OR.

If you have any bike problems when you get here, the local bike shop will be open Monday. Here is a link to their web page.

http://www.bikenewport.net/

They just put together some bikes Thursday for some people that might be doing the same thing you are. They were shipped in in boxes and the people picked them up last night, supposedly heading out today. There is another bike shop in Florence if you need anything there.

Sunday nights are pretty dead here as far as 'tourists' go, so getting a yurt in South Beach was almost a for sure. Friday or Saturday night...probably not.

Florence is 50 miles south of Newport. The first 25 miles are pretty nice riding...gently rolling terrain, pretty wide shoulders. After Hwy 101 leaves Yachats, the road gets pretty narrow, winding and hilly for about 15 miles, then down off a high headland and flattens out into Florence. However, there are some great views of the ocean, as you are about 5 feet from the edge of 100-200' cliffs at times (guardrails or rock guardrails). The wind is usually from the north, so you can get some pretty good pushes at times. Just have to keep your eye on the motor homes, campers, trailers, etc, as they are usually looking at the ocean.

Have a good one...
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