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Old 05-26-07, 04:25 PM   #1
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Do I really need a long sleeve jersey?

I'm heading to the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, and Southern Germany in mid June through early July. It's a credit card tour and I'm packing light with just rear panniers and a handlebar bag. I have fleece-lined leg and arm warmers and I'm now thinking that I just won't need a long sleeve jersey during summer. I figure the coldest that it's really going to get is 50 degrees F (10 C) and at that point I can wear my short sleeve jersey, arm warmers, and my gore-tex jacket. I can certainly fit the jersey but I'd prefer to have the room in my panniers if I don't have to. Thoughts?
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Old 05-26-07, 04:39 PM   #2
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If the low temp is really going to be 50 F, I wouldn't even take the arm and leg warmers.
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Old 05-26-07, 05:24 PM   #3
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Long sleeves have two functions -
They keep you warmer if it's chilly -
And they keep the sun off of you.
Some people swear by long sleeves after they gotten too much sun.
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Old 05-26-07, 05:43 PM   #4
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I wear a long-sleeve jersey, even in extreme heat, as protection from the sun. I actually feel cooler than when I wear a short sleeve jersey.
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What do you prefer to ride in? Most people seem to like short sleeves, but I don't; a lot of that has to do with sun protection, which is much less of an issue in Europe than in Australia.

In Australian sun and 36C heat (ie. 95-96 degrees F) I like a light (yellow), sunproof but breezy long-sleeved jersey. At reasonable speeds the combination of evaporation from the wind and the sun protection is great (if you move too slowly to get a breeze it gets quite hot).

I'd definitely want my arms covered at 10 C, but not with warm fleece. I'd forget about leg warmers unless you have cold wind/rain (huge wind chill on a bike in the rain even if ambient temp is mild).

If you prefer short sleeves, you'll be fine with your arm warmers at those temps; this is he most flexible option. Do you have un-lined warmers? I think they'll be more comfortable than the warm ones.
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What do you prefer to ride in? Most people seem to like short sleeves, but I don't; a lot of that has to do with sun protection, which is much less of an issue in Europe than in Australia.

In Australian sun and 36C heat (ie. 95-96 degrees F) I like a light (yellow), sunproof but breezy long-sleeved jersey. At reasonable speeds the combination of evaporation from the wind and the sun protection is great (if you move too slowly to get a breeze it gets quite hot).

I'd definitely want my arms covered at 10 C, but not with warm fleece. I'd forget about leg warmers unless you have cold wind/rain (huge wind chill on a bike in the rain even if ambient temp is mild).

If you prefer short sleeves, you'll be fine with your arm warmers at those temps; this is he most flexible option. Do you have un-lined warmers? I think they'll be more comfortable than the warm ones.
Thanks everyone for the comments. They're pretty standard arm & leg warmers - the fleece lining is very thin. Since I do prefer short sleeves, I am going to just bring the arm warmers and leave the jersey at home.
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Long sleeves have two functions -
They keep you warmer if it's chilly -
And they keep the sun off of you.
Some people swear by long sleeves after they gotten too much sun.
Absolutely agree. Fair-skinned people can only get so far safely with sunblock.

Long sleeves are actually more useful for sun protection, IMO. Benefits include:

1. keeps the sun off as good as sunblock (you still get uv thru the material, though)
2. shirt weighs same as a can of sunblock, plus provides insulation in cold
3. long sleeve shirt will pay for itself a few times over in sun block savings.
4. no gook on your arms, hands and everywhere it migrates
5. soak a long sleeve shirt in water, head out - 10-20 minutes of cooling relief from heat via evaporative cooling. when dry, wet and repeat.

Anyone use knickers instead of the usual shorts? Extend sun protection over thighs and knees...
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Old 05-26-07, 09:46 PM   #8
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I look like a Bedouin when I tour.
Long pants, long sleeves, gloves, neck flap cap.
I'm a redhead - and I grew up in Puerto Rico getting roasted a few times.

I've toured maybe 60,000 to 80,000 miles - a lot in places like Utah and Nevada.
Sometimes I'll even wear a light white hankie over my face - like a veil.
You can see right thru it and you get sun reflection.
Who needs sunglasses when you can bike in a burqa. ;-)
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I dislike making such choices when packing for any type of trip. I'd leave the jersey at home, and simply buy one en route if you find it necessary.
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Bring the arm warmers, forget the long sleeve jersey.
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Going up into the Alps. Think it's possible it could get below 50F.? I'd at least take the arm warmers should you do the mountains.
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Lightwieght long underwear... like Body Armour...top and bottoms, don't take much room and can save you if the weather turns bad.

The downside is changing on the road....
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