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Old 09-04-07, 03:26 AM   #1
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Trangia Stove Fuel Alternatives

Hi Guys,

I am pretty much set on my decision to buy the Mini Trangia after weighing-up the pros and cons.

I have read online about other stoves that "X fuel will do in a pinch" or "Y fuel isn't ideal but if nothing else is available it will work but not burn the best" etc.

I'm wondering that if the metho/alcohol fuel is not available if the Trangia would work with petrol or kerosine (just pick a couple of names at random) or something else?

I am planning a trip in Europe next year. I am expecting metho to be widely available but haven't used the Trangia stove before and am trying to educate myself about this wonderful little stove before taking the plunge and buying it!

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Old 09-04-07, 04:38 AM   #2
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Absolutely DO NOT use kerosene, diesel fuel, or gasoline in a Trangia. Alcohol is the only fuel. Denatured if possible, .Isopropol will do in a pinch but is smoky. You can substitute Heet or an equivalent . Everclear or "White Lightning" will work also, any liquor that will flame.
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Yes, alcohol only. Here's a great list of where to find meths in various countries:
http://www.mark-ju.net/juliette/meths.htm
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Alcohol only.

Metho; vodka; overproof rum; grappa; tsipouro; raki; Laphroaig; lab alcohol; you get the idea.

Petrol will go boom. Bad idea.
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If you want a much lighter alternative, look into a "pepsican" stove. There are tons of designs out there and all are easy diy.
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Check out www.brasslite.com . I have the Turbo II-D and it's great! Just another option for ya to consider! Good luck!
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Okay, since small and lightweight has come up, I've ordered a Clikstand, a collapsable pot-stand that's designed to work with the Trangia alcohol burner:
http://www.clikstand.com/

If you're in the UK, I do not recommend using the UK Distributor (Outdoor Code - I waited two months without ever getting delivery), but instead get it shipped directly from Clikstand.
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Thanks for all the comments. I suspected anything other than alcohol was a big no-no but hadn't managed to see it spelt-out anywhere for certain. I don't imagine ever having trouble finding fuel and just wanted to make sure I had enough knowledge to avoid doing something stupid when out on the road.

I will buy the unit in Australia but have only found one retailer in Australia online selling the original Trangia 28T (in Perth). Otherwise a lookalike model seems to be available (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&ih=002). Having looked at some of this brand's (Sporztrek) other (potentially low quality) products I think I'll pay the AUD$58 and buy from Perth rather than save $20 and regret it later. There are many, many excellent and competitively-priced online stores in the UK, Canada and the US but with postage costs it's cheaper to be over-charged locally!

I like the fact I've read the Trangia is lightweight and idiot-proof to use despite apparently being a bit slow to heat and less fuel-efficient than other brands.
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Okay, since small and lightweight has come up, I've ordered a Clikstand, a collapsable pot-stand that's designed to work with the Trangia alcohol burner:
http://www.clikstand.com/
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The Clikstand is a bit pricey, but it's a great addition to the Trangia! I did research and found this was the best combo for me. So elegant, simple, light and strong.

I just went on a backpacking trip up to the Sierras. I was a little apprehensive about bringing an alcohol stove up to 11,000 feet, but it performed admirably. I never use my Whisperlite gas stove anymore.
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http://zenstoves.net/Stoves.htm The Zen stoves page there has a nice big list of what to burn and how well each alternative works. Scroll down toward the bottom. Personally I use a methanol gasline antifreeze (like Heet) when I can't find denatured alcohol, it's cheap and burns well, comes in a nice small bottle, and I can buy it practically anywhere around here. I wouldn't leave any extra in your stove to potentially contaminate your cookware.
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I will buy the unit in Australia but have only found one retailer in Australia online selling the original Trangia 28T.
Trangias are pretty widely available in Australia. I'm not sure what the 28T set is, but most bushwalking shops will have the large and small "storm cooker" setups (2 pots, lid/pan, burner, wind shield, pot holder) and the smaller one has pot capacities of about 650 and 700ml, heaps for one and enough for one each (2 people).

Some places have the ultralight setup, which has a much simplified holder for the burner but essentially no wind protection - you'd need some foil to wrap around (no problem, just get heavy foil or a foil platter from the supermarket). Can't find the name of the shop I'm thinking of, it is in Melbourne, off Little Bourke St, has lots of lightweight stuff.

The trangia is pretty convenient, but a little bulky and a little slow to boil water. Zenstoves is the best site for looking at alternatives. I'd say go for the ultralight kit plus some foil, and add other pots if necessary.

Also, many of the camping stores have trangia clones. Shanghai is probably as good a place as any if you want a clone. You could always buy a genuine burner if the included one is no good.
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Cave - thanks for that info. I am living in Shanghai until Christmas but home to Australia to visit relatives, then overseas again. Spending the next few months planning my Europe trip of early-mid 2008.

I believe the T28 is the mini Trangia.

I have been looking at the clones online and, yes, Shanghai seems to be the centre of the universe as far as that goes. Anything is available here in copied format (ipods/bags/shoes/watches/camping stuff/dvds- you name it) but the quality varies hugely. I've cut corners with a lot of stuff but after being caught-out a few times with sub-standard copies (although in general, I've been very lucky)

I'm determined that the Trangia cooker, a good quality sleeping bag and Hennessy hammock are the three areas I want to get it right the first time and hopefully have for a few years. The other gear I'm happy to gamble on quality!
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