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Old 02-02-08, 10:02 PM   #1
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Jamis Aurora vs. Aurora Elite

Since this has been brought up in a few other threads, I'm curious to know others' opinions. Aside from a higher price and better componentry, the Aurora Elite (a rebadged '07 Nova Cyclocross with a triple crank) generally has...

-" shorter chainstays, wheelbase, and headtube, and slightly higher BB.

One big difference I see is the BIG (53/39/30) crank combined with only a 12/27 cassette. For hilly terrain, I suspect this could be problematic.

Anybody feel that the Aurora Elite would not make a good all-purpose tourer/commuter/city bike? Anybody have a problem with using a carbon fork? It does have eyelets for a front rack.

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Old 02-02-08, 10:07 PM   #2
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Why not? Sounds like a decent setup to me. I wouldn't go FULLY loaded on a rig like that. But I think that would be a good ride for someone that is willing to travel light. Trek is putting carbon forks on their low end, light touring bikes. I would definitely swap the cassette for something with a bigger granny gear, but I don't see anything wrong with the crank set. I run similar gears on my touring crank set.
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I think I recall somebody telling me that the largest 10 speed (STI 105) cassette that would fit is a 12/27. Please correct me if that's not true. Who makes a larger one that would fit the setup?
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That would be a deal breaker for me. I wouldn't tour without at least a 32 tooth cog on the rear cassette.
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I kinda sorta feel the same way, even though I like the componentry on the Elite.
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I think I recall somebody telling me that the largest 10 speed (STI 105) cassette that would fit is a 12/27. Please correct me if that's not true. Who makes a larger one that would fit the setup?
Harris Cyclery sells wide range 10 speed cassettes made by IRD. They say that the cassettes doen't shift as well as Shimano, and that you'd have to swap out the Ultegra rear derailleur for a longer cage model.

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IRD makes an 11-32 and an 11-34 10 speed cassette. Not cheap , $150 + at Harris cyclery, but available. They require a long cage mountain bike derailler I believe. On another note, I tour on an older Nova, 2004 I believe, and no problems so far. I did change the cranks out for 48/38/28 and a 11-34 9 speed cassette. Fully loaded with 50 or so lbs , I have done several thousand happy kms. However, its the only bike I have ever toured on, so have nothing to compare it to
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For touring, the elite is a downgrade over the stock aurora. 27t cassette, carbon fiber fork, and shorter rear chainstays.
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For touring, the elite is a downgrade over the stock aurora. 27t cassette, carbon fiber fork, and shorter rear chainstays.
Ranman, I tend to agree with john on this one. But that's only if it's going to be used exclusively for touring. If your intent is occaisional touring and more everyday riding/commuting, then I'd go with the Elite as long as you have heel clearance, and I suspect you do unless you have particularly large feet. My ride is built along that philosophy. The one thing I didn't want to end up with, was a truck. I wish they had introduced the Elite a year earlier. Put a real Granny on the crankset for longer tours and you should get along fine. The carbon fork on my roadie makes for a plush ride and I debated heavily about a carbon for the Tourlite and may eventually get one for everyday riding.

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FYI, I believe the Aurora Elite is actually a slightly modded Jamis Nova, which is their cyclocross frame.

Practically speaking, the Elite ought to be a little more suited to rough roads, gravel, and dirt trails.

Cassette and crank should be fairly easy to swap out. E.g. you can probably do a 48-36-24 up front, depending on the FD. Most shops will just do that for you at purchase time.

Carbon fork with eyelets should be OK. Not necessarily my first choice, but should be fine.
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Well, since the 12/27 cassette is for all practical purposes the largest one available that would work with the Ultegra rd, it doesn't make much sense to swap it out...especially since the only other alternative is MUCH more expensive, and supposedly doesn't shift as smoothly. Perhaps swapping out the crank isn't a bad idea, but I don't think you can change out all the chainrings, can you?

Bottom line: Other than some upgraded parts and the 631 frame, is the Aurora Elite REALLY an upgrade to the Aurora for credit card touring and as a city commuter? I'm just not sure of that....

And btw, the weight difference between the two bikes is only .75 lbs.
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steels forks would be a lot easily repairable just about anywhere you go. if something happens to your carbon forks, you'll be likely sitting around waiting for an entire replacement to show up.
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