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Old 02-12-08, 12:51 PM   #1
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I got a free bike, how did i do?

It is a Cannondale, not sure of the model, it is 3.0 series aluminum and is just about the perfect size for me. A friend I am beginning to train with gave it to me for the trip and then some if I want. I am getting new rims and tires and all the other good stuff but for now I think I scored a sweet deal, let me know what you think!
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I guess I am wondering if 3.0 series aluminum will be strong enough for a 185lb rider and 50lb or less of equipment. I have been told by many many cyclists that steel is the only way to go but this seems pretty sturdy to me, and light!
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I don't know what the issue is, but I have read negative opinions about the "outrigger" dropouts like on that frame. Since they were only on Cannondales for a year or two, I would guess that it is a strength/durability issue.
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I have a 3.0 series MTB that I raced and generally beat the hell out of, and I would have to say that it seemed pretty tough to me, given the years of hard riding.
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It is a Cannondale, not sure of the model, it is 3.0 series aluminum and is just about the perfect size for me. A friend I am beginning to train with gave it to me for the trip and then some if I want. I am getting new rims and tires and all the other good stuff but for now I think I scored a sweet deal, let me know what you think!
That BB looks high to make a good tourer
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That BB looks high to make a good tourer
sorry , BB?

haha, i am supposing you mean this looks good for a tour?
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I don't know what the issue is, but I have read negative opinions about the "outrigger" dropouts like on that frame. Since they were only on Cannondales for a year or two, I would guess that it is a strength/durability issue.


Yea I guess I could see the issue there because they come out a bit off the frame, but they are plated with another metal on one side and just generally look strong. Plus the guy I got it from is a bit bigger than me and rode hard. So I guess if they aint broke yet then they might not break.

The whole frame just generally feels good to me (and it was free) so I want to stick with it.


If anyone has had an issue with an older model Cannondales "outrigger" dropouts actually flat out breaking on them? Let me know!
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BB = Bottom Bracket
According to Sheldon Browns Glossary it is:
The part of the frame around which the pedal cranks revolve, also the bearings and axle assembly that runs through the bottom bracket shell of the frame.

I wouldn't worry too much about the height unless you find it uncomfortable for some reason. A dedicated tourer would have a lower BB.
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If anyone has had an issue with an older model Cannondales "outrigger" dropouts actually flat out breaking on them? Let me know!
I mentioned that I beat the hell out of a 3.0 model for years with no problems. That was off road and aggressive riding. That one had the same dropouts and I was a good bit heavier than you for some portion of that riding.

I think it will make a reasonable touring bike.
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Outriggers? I wold think a typical MTB with a 185lb rider would see higher loads when negotiating technical terrain than a tour bike... unless you are touring off road. I think pannier racks attach to the rear portion of these outriggers distributing the load. I used to have a road Cannondale with similar chainstays.
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hahaha, yea i know what a bottom bracket is, I just didn't put two and two together, I thought she was talking about some type of toy gun or something... jk

I didn't think about how high it is, but like I said the bike feels ok so if it is an issue I will just make other adjustments as I train.
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Well I am pretty confident in my new bike so now comes the conversion, I will ask questions as they come.

Thank you so much for the feedback!
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If it's comfortable and free, you can't do much better. Happy riding.
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Before you get too far into it think about how you're going to carry your gear and see if it will work. One of the things I read about with touring bikes is the chainstay length when using panniers. Borrow a rack and panniers set and mount them up temporarily and see if you have any clearance issues.
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Before you get too far into it think about how you're going to carry your gear and see if it will work. One of the things I read about with touring bikes is the chainstay length when using panniers. Borrow a rack and panniers set and mount them up temporarily and see if you have any clearance issues.
Good thinking, but with my budget and my crafty skills I am going to try and build my own pannier racks so I will be able to work out the clearance issues. (my friend is in college to learn metal work so he is going to be welding me some custom equipment)

Thanks again, I will let you know how that works out.
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Does it have rack eyelets? How about on the fork?
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Get a BoB trailer and go. That frame will be plenty strong and actually very well matched for a trailer because it won't flex and give you the wobblies. Putting panniers on it may be a bit dicier because you are riding high on that BB (as pointed out) and adding panniers will raise your center of gravity even more unless you can really go light and get all the heavy weight stuff below the axles.
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Cannondale Al is certainly tour worthy.

I can see how some might question those rear drops. You could check witn Canondale and see if there were ever any problems. One thing about the internet is it only takes a few minor problems to get totaly blown out of proportion. If out of the universe of bike .01% have drops problems, and if this design never had a worse record than any other bike, it will still get trashed just for being different.
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ah it's great to have friend's class looking bike as duck fat said get a bob trailer and just ride
what wheels and tyres have you on the bike they look pretty solid.best of irish.
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Does it have rack eyelets? How about on the fork?
Yes it does actually, I am already ordering a rear rack and some hardware to attach two big jugs of water to the forks.
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Great! Sounds like it'll work just fine.

You might want to consider some bar ends or trekking bars so you can have more hand positions. Trekking bars will also allow your to sit up more straight when you want to.
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ah it's great to have friend's class looking bike as duck fat said get a bob trailer and just ride
what wheels and tyres have you on the bike they look pretty solid.best of irish.
I dunno about the trailer, I don't want the hassle of feeling something behind me, I would rather have just 2 wheels on the ground. I am debating whether to order these racks or use a low profile design me and my friend can easily make over the weekend. I am aware of my center of gravity issue and I will tweak the bike as I convert it to a badass touring bike and basically do whatever I can to avoid using a trailer. I don't mean to put down the idea it is just an issue of personal preference I suppose.

About the tires: Cheng Shin Tires ? - and the wheelset: ARAYA.japan 26"x1.50" HE VP-20

The rear wheel is veeerrry untrue and I think it is unfixable due to the hub now being out of whack. The front tire seems a bit untrue but could be adjusted. I have been told to so with a better alloy than aluminum for rims or I would find myself in trouble when packing heavy. I am planning on doing this in a minimalist, buddhist style so I am thinking I should fix these rims with better less knobby tires and get rolling on what I've got. Thanks for the help.
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Yep I am looking for a good set of trekking bars right now actually, from all the pictures of loaded rigs I have seen this is the best way to go. I will be covering them in foam and wrapping tape around that to keep the foam dry because I saw and liked this on another rig.
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You can order them off ebay for 20 bucks or so shipped.

Are the spokes on the wheels rusted or corroded? You may just want to buy a new wheelset.
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Trekking bars:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...B%20Handlebars
On sale $17.99, then use 10% coupon code of W240 that's supposed to be good until 03/06/08.
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