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Old 02-15-08, 03:30 PM   #1
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How fast on a 30lb. touring bike??

Curious to know how fast y'all can COMFORTABLY ride on an UNloaded 30lb. touring bike. I was just wondering if I'll be able to keep up on weekend club rides at their 16-18mph (on the flats) pace on an unloaded Jamis Aurora with Jandd Expedition rack.

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after you get back from your tour and unload the bike i'm sure you'll have no problem keeping up
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We often rode faster than that for a couple hours on the flat even fully loaded and on tour (three of us drafting each other). We also have ridden a rolling century at a comfortable pace and averaged 16 mph including stops. We weren't pushing hard, didn't rush the stops, and were not in absolute top shape or anything.
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Curious to know how fast y'all can COMFORTABLY ride on an UNloaded 30lb. touring bike. I was just wondering if I'll be able to keep up on weekend club rides at their 16-18mph (on the flats) pace on an unloaded Jamis Aurora with Jandd Expedition rack.
The only way to find out is to try it, no?

Seriously, go find a nice 14-15mph pace club ride and see how it goes. If you feel like you can crank it up, try a faster ride. I believe that my touring/cross bike knocks about 5% of my performance off, and the handling is much more sluggish, but the only time I had trouble keeping up was when a bunch of wags took off at 20mph and, like an idiot, I decided to chase.

By the way, frame weight has almost nothing to do with performance. Many other factors are more critical, such as:

rider ability
tire width, pressure and tread
rider position
aerodynamics

The only place where weight really counts is in the wheels.
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On my Surly LHT one day recently I rode by a guy on a road bike (at a stop light). He drafted me for a while and then passed. I started drafting him and we were going along well into the 20's mph. After about 1/2 hour we came to a town and started to talk. He was really surprised I was still with him. Well, so was I.

I think at higher speeds aerodynamics is a major disadvantage for a touring bike with racks, fenders and big tires. Even more so with panniers which I didn't have on in this instance. Also, I had to struggle a bit on uphill grades so the weight is probably a factor (which on tour one makes up for by going slower in lower gears) but I dive bombed him on the downs. It is surprising how fast a touring bike will move when drafting.
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I average 16.5-18mph on a little 21 mile loop with several decent sized hills on my touring bike, unloaded. I do it at around 20mph on my aluminum road bike. I did an unloaded double century on my touring bike at a little over 14mph, including stops.
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after you get back from your tour and unload the bike i'm sure you'll have no problem keeping up
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i can pretty much keep up with most people on roadies in melbournes beach road, obviously the real fast guys is an issue regardless of which bike.

same advice as someone else gave try it and see
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My bike is for touring I don't have to stay up with anyone. The only thing I want to stay ahead of is my BoB trailer. If that passes me I'm in trouble
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Our group rides are rated at 16-20 mph. I think that they are more like 14-18 until the end of the season and then we might hit 16-20. I ride a bike that weighs in at about 29 lbs. I'm fine on flats and I kill everyone on descents (I'm 225 lbs - get rolling pretty good down a hill.) However, I get clobbered on hills.. and we have several of them on each ride. I have the gearing to make it up any hill but at times I find myself at 5mph when others are climbing at 9-11mph. Granted, I could lose the weight (which I plan to do), but I find that it takes significantly more effort to push that 30 lb steel bike up the hill than it does to push a 17 lb carbon up a hill. I'll keep the touring bike for commuting, touring, possibly randonneuring (300+ km), and also use it in the rain... but for those nice days when I want to go fast... I'm getting a carbon frame with a compact double. You can't convince me that it doesn't make a difference. If it didn't, I'm sure you would see guys on the pro tour riding heavier steel vs. carbon. The touring bike is fun, and it gets me fit, and it has been extremely versatile... but when I can afford the carbon road bike.. i'm gettin' it!
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