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Old 03-25-08, 02:06 PM
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favorite touring groupo?

As im preparing to start building a touring rig ( once i get a frame....another thread perhaps) Im wondering about what components people prefer. Im personally looking at shimano deore LX and XT components. Just wondering what everyone else prefers.
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My LHT has a full XT 9sp drive train (oh wait, the fd is LX...) with DA downtube shifters, soon to be thumbshifters (DA 9sp barend shifters on Pauls Thumbies).

LX probably is just fine too. I got XT cranks because the LX don't come in 165mm length.
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i'm also thinking of going with a 9spd with thumb levers. Why do you prefer 165mm for touring? I run 165 on my track bike but I would think you would something a lil longer for touring? I am also a surly man.
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Originally Posted by fixedup
Why do you prefer 165mm for touring?
Because I'm 5'2"
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I refitted my mtb to a trail touring bike(if you can call it that) and went with all SRAM 9.0 componets. I am very pleased how it turned out.
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Bruce Gordon uses the XT on his high end tourer and the LX on his budget tourer. Not that ~$2,000 is so budget. With really rotten care on my part the chain/cassette on my BLT lasted ~12,000 miles.

22/32/44 in front and 11-32 in back. My old wrecked Miyata 1000 has a rear cog that reaches 38.
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i use shimano( xt m770 groopset) hubs,crankset,front and back derailers ,tiagra 9speed sti leavers all work super smooth on my fantastic thorn sherpa
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xt hubs, xt crankset, xt f/r derailleurs, sram 991 chain, and dura ace bar end shifters for my sherpa build.
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IMO, the LX or X.7 components are pragmatic choices for touring bike. They seem to last well,
are a good value and pretty available when you do need to replace a part. Plus don't catch the
eyes of thievery as easily as highest end components.
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I wish there was a touring grouppo.

There should be, it would take next to no time for Shimano to put it together.

But there isn't.
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Originally Posted by fixedup
As im preparing to start building a touring rig ( once i get a frame....another thread perhaps) Im wondering about what components people prefer. Im personally looking at shimano deore LX and XT components. Just wondering what everyone else prefers.
Don't think you have to have a single group of components. Choose your components based on quality and ease of maintenance. Mine:



Cannondale frame and fork, King threadless headset, RaceFace Turbine crank, Phil Wood Hubs, IRD Cafam brakes, XT rear, Tiargra front, 105 shifters, Raceface Evolve post (although in this picture it's still has the Easton post) , Raceface stem, Salsa Bell Lap bars, SRAM chain and cassette. Everything on the bike is chosen for it's durability or past experience with the product.

If I were to change anything I'd change out the Turbine crank for an XT external bearing crank because the crank can be easily dissassembled with an allen wrench.
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cyccommite great looking and well specked out bike but why no mudguards (fenders)
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I am sporting a campy veloce with avid BB7 roads and a record triple crank.

I love it so far. We'll see how it fairs after 15,000kms this summer.
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Originally Posted by antokelly
cyccommite great looking and well specked out bike but why no mudguards (fenders)
'Cause I don't like 'em And I already hit the front tire in tight turns.
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Originally Posted by late
I wish there was a touring grouppo.

There should be, it would take next to no time for Shimano to put it together.

But there isn't.
LX is now considered a trekking groupo. Here's the new LX.

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re dura-ace barends, does shimano make them in 105 or sora?
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Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg
re dura-ace barends, does shimano make them in 105 or sora?
My understanding is that Shimano makes 3 types of barend shifters: Ultegra 8-speed, Dura Ace 9-speed and Dura Ace 10-speed. If I'm wrong, I sure someone will let me know.
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Mine's a mutt: Silver bar-end shifters, Ultegra frond derailler and Alivio, (yes Alivio,-it just won't wear out and works great,) rear derailler. Sugino mountain triple, 34-11 in the rear. That's my commuting/touring wheelset, I also have different cassettes on my mountain and roadie wheelsets.
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My last touring build was for unloaded tours. Lemond BA 853 frame, Velocity Aerohead rims (with OC rear), Ultegra hubs, 105 ders and triple crank, sram cassette, Ultegra 9 brifters.
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I'm not sure Shimano is making 8 speed barcons any more-- but I'm sure you can still buy them. There are also lots of 9 and 10 speed units out there. some shifters say Ultegra on them, some Dura Ace, but they are the same basic shifters on the inside.

That new LX trekking gruppo looks really sweet. If you want drop bars, get some barcons and those new Trekro short pull road levers. There's even a dynamo hub?!? Very cool.
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Shimano XT and Campy Chorus Ergo with a Jtek Shiftmate #3 to make them work together. Perfect.
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Originally Posted by tacomee

That new LX trekking gruppo looks really sweet. If you want drop bars, get some barcons and those new Trekro short pull road levers. There's even a dynamo hub?!? Very cool.

Yes, according to cycling news.

Shimano has also announced that its workhorse LX group will now split in two. The next Deore LX generation will be aimed more towards the trekking market with a sleeker look, front hub dynamo option, and pavement oriented gearing while a new SLX group will supposedly cover the range "from All Mountain Extreme to Cross Country use" without adding weight from the current LX group.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?.../shimano_09_08
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Originally Posted by Robert_in_ca
LX is now considered a trekking groupo. Here's the new LX.
Dumb question: when people refer to this Shimano group as a "trekking" group, is that what people on this forum would also refer to as a "touring" group?
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Originally Posted by BengeBoy
Dumb question: when people refer to this Shimano group as a "trekking" group, is that what people on this forum would also refer to as a "touring" group?

Sort off-- Most of the time *Trekking bikes* have butterfly bars with MTB shifters and are more popular in Europe. *Touring bikes* mean a bike with dropped bars most of the time. Pleople flip these terms around all the time, but yes,for the most part *touring* and *trekking* bikes are the same type of bike. Clear as mud!
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