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    Q: Prague vienna greenway

    Hy

    I'm looking for some usefull informations abouth that greenway, did anyone toured that greenway? if you did can you tell me about the camping places near the greenway path, or some cheap hostels/hostel/Bead&breakfast accomodations? is it ok to use a road bike on this greenway? I'm asking becouse in the brosure they say that the most parth of the greenway is an asphalt, but they say that this is not a greenway for road bikes so I'm confused..

    http://www.pragueviennagreenways.org/

    Any information welcome!

    best wishes

    Neven
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    Aparently, lots of it is asphalt, but that doesn't mean it is new, smooth asphalt. It is probably very bumpy, that's why they say it isn't for road bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by becnal View Post
    Aparently, lots of it is asphalt, but that doesn't mean it is new, smooth asphalt. It is probably very bumpy, that's why they say it isn't for road bikes.

    that kind of asphalt is all oround here in Croatia so I'm used to it
    I bought a 28x622 tires instead the 23x622 that where on bike so it's more comfortable now..

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    Hi Neven,

    Coming from Croatia, I'm sure the Vienna - Prag Greenway will be no problem at all for you. I also like wide comfortable tires on my bike.

    Have you done much touring before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by becnal View Post
    Hi Neven,

    Coming from Croatia, I'm sure the Vienna - Prag Greenway will be no problem at all for you. I also like wide comfortable tires on my bike.

    Have you done much touring before?
    no, this will be my first tour, untill now I was rideing just one day trips in the hills with my MTB , now I want some road adventure

    that 28x622 dimension tires are much better than those standard road tires, but also more uncomfortable than tires on trekking bikes (35x622) .. but I can't put so "fat" tires on my road bike..

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    Just put the fattest that you can. Then go enjoy the tour. Don't worry about those tiny things you can't control.

    Or, you could take your mountain bike on the tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by becnal View Post
    Or, you could take your mountain bike on the tour.
    I can't go with my mtb, I'm going with my friend who has trekking bike.. also it's much easyer to fix my road bike (no hidraulic brakes and fork) if something happens, I hope that nothing will happen but ....

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    The Greenway itself is mostly asphalt roads, of good enough quality to ride a road bike.

    If you wanted to take a mountain bike instead, and you like that type of cycling, it is very popular in CR and there are excellent trails that are suited only to mountain biking.

    Here is a partially finished website that I am working on, about the Prague Czech Greenways. I am going there this summer, and I will be completing the site next fall and then giving it a URL of its own (but it will still be accessible through this URL):

    http://czechgreenways.wordpress.com/

    Camping is so easy to find during the summer throughout all the tourist regions of Europe (Czech Republic, Austria, Germany, France, etc.) that there is no need to have a guidebook or map that tells you where to camp. Stop for the day when you see one that you like, when you feel like stopping. Ask other people that you see on bikes what their favorite camping place is. You can ask at tourist information centers in towns too.

    If you would like to see how easy it is to find camping, just look at any part of the country here:

    http://www.mapy.cz/

    Click on Turisticka and then zoom in to about 1:100,000 or 1:50,000 and you will see all the campground symbols near cities.

    The popular tourist towns like Cesky Krumlov (which is on a southern extension of the basic Greenway) have a lot of hostels. Smaller towns may not have a hostel, but they have other inexpensive options, like guesthouses or basic hotels.

    Inexpensive meaning, relative to other prices in the country. I am bracing myself for Euro shock this summer (the worthlessness of my dollars).

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    My first "big" tour included the Prague Vienna Greenway. I started that trip cycling from Salzburg up to the Danube bikeway and followed it to Budapest. Took a boat back to Vienna and followed the Prague Vienna Greenway to Prague.

    On the greenway-I took the way via Cesky Budevic & Cesky Crumlov-and recommend doing so to others. I used pretty slim road touring tires, and do not recomend doing so. There are some natural parks in Czech Republic which you can cycle through rather than following the roads, but not suitable for slim road tires. (also there were long stretches of the river routes in Austria on gravel/crushed gravel)

    As Metzenberg above wrote, I also just found accomidation along the way. No real problems, just a few oversites on my part by trying to continue too far on a few days which left me cycling after dark.

    Being American, the costs for me would be high to do the same trip again today. For you the costs would depend upon how busy the tourist season is (for example many Americans are not traveling overseas untill the economy makes an upturn). When I went, a room with good breakfast in a nice Pension' cost me about twice as much as a campsite in a commercial campground (like campgrounds found near larger towns/cities)-or about 3 times the price of more rural pay campgrounds.
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    i hav enot read the thread in detail... but i did notice that you are coming form Hr.

    where abouts?

    There are nice trails in Austria around Mur up to Gray, then from there you can find routes to Vienna.

    I have ridden Hegyeshalom, Hungary to Austria to Bratislava, along the river going north from devin, just out of bratislava.... up to Kitty, over to Cz.... then towards Znojmo and up to Brno.

    lot sof ppl in Cz said te greemway is fine, great, etc. I had no problems, ppl were great, i was not on the greenway per se but there routes i rode were very well posted and easy to follow.

    just get on it and have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robi View Post
    i hav enot read the thread in detail... but i did notice that you are coming form Hr.

    where abouts?

    robi
    I'm from Zagreb - (Croatia) ..

    Thans a lot for informations, you all halped a lot, I did a test ride with loaded bike few days ago and I think everything will be ok this summer.. I also put a pucture in the "loaded rigs" thread..


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    Hi. I am going to visit Prague, Bratisalva & Vienna in mid-June.
    I will have one day to ride (my girlfriend & her family will be setting the agenda so this is all I can get). Some folks have said I should choose Prague for the bike ride. Praha bike rentals seems to have the nicer mtn bikes but I am open to suggestions <http://www.artmap.info/index.php?idoflevel=21>. Personally, I am happiest on my own touring/commuter bike but the cobblestone roads seem to eliminate those bikes as a rental option. I wonder if I will find more options once we get to Prague.

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    Nvn,

    make sure to drink a few koktas for me on the trip up and when you hit SK and/or CZ try Koffola!!!

    Have a good time...

    a student of mine, 15 years old will be riding from Budapest to Riejka this summer with his dad and dad's friends...


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    Prague is pretty hilly and the old town packed.

    if you are riding in the city to see town, forget it, walk, if you are riding for fun and to see other parts of town, both go for it.

    Vienna is easy for riding, it is full of bike lanes...

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    It's a great route and you'll be fine with 28s with a bit of tread. I did it a couple years ago and it was fantastic, but awfully hilly on the westerly part southeast of Prague, which is also a TERRIBLE city for bikes (downtown). Vienna was FANTASTIC for bikes however and a few loops of the Ringstrasse are a fantastic end to a great ride. Met very many nice people on the way and really fell in love with the Czech Republic. I highly recommend making a visit to Brno, 60K north of the trail. I also LOVED the cycling in Northern Austria. Retz was very nice and the drivers were fantastic, and the roads of smooth as silk.

    I would do it again in an instant.

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    Hi averyone

    I was on Prague-Vienna in the end, with my road bike and it was great.. So it can be pulled of with the road bike, it has some bad sections of macadam pahts, but it's minimum ..

    Only thing that was bad is the weather, it was raining every day, so we didn't ride as nearly we wonted to, but is't ok for the first touring..

    There are maps that cover every section of greenway, and one map with all the camps in Czech so it is very easy to find where to sleep.. In Prague we also slept in camp, almost in the center of the city, it was great..All that maps u can buy on every gas station..

    I wrote about every day of that trip here - > http://dvakotacadovoljna.blog.hr/ but it's in croatian, but u can see some pics in the right column..

    Thank u for all the answers before we went touring!


    P.S.- Prague is really bad for bikes like ggy said

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    haven't read the responses yet (busy at work, will edit if i need to). but as i recall the prague-vienna greenway also covered roads to krakow and maybe budapest, yes? will you just be going from prague to vienna? if that's the case, I didn't take the route directly from prague to vienna, but the more roundabout path to krakow and budapest then vienna. here's my recommendation: DON'T DO THAT. prague to krakow is lovely. krakow to budapest can only be done through the tatras and many parts could only be done on the busy motorway. budapest to vienna was pretty boring - especially bratislava to vienna. i think that stretch was the single most boring day of cycling in six months.

    however, all that aside to the best of my recollection the greenway in the czech republic and poland was very nice. I used a trek 520 with 35mm tires, so I was able to handle the few areas of gravel. i did the whole thing stealth camping so i can't really speak to the availability of lodging outside of either prague or vienna. except I would suggest you check out olomouc since it's largely on the way and a truly lovely town (and the hostel there is one of my favorites in all of europe). however, to the best of my recollection there were towns distributed pretty evenly around the countryside, and i would imagine lodging wouldn't be too difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr bill View Post
    will you just be going from prague to vienna?
    I think u didn't understood me, we already went to Prag-Vienna (probably becaouse of my english) .. We were going just Prague-Vienna becouse we had only 7 days for the tour, so that route was enough, expecially becouse it was raining every day..

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