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Old 09-04-08, 07:23 PM   #1
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SKS P50s on a 26" LHT

All the online catalogs list the P50 as a 700c/26" fit fender. The SKS package lists them as a 700C, and after trying to install them, I believe the package- the stays are too long.

Those of you using the P50s on 26" wheels- do you have to cut the stays, or do you live with "mismatched" radius, and the fenders being higher off the tire on top and in back than in front?
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You can cut the stays for closer fit.

I always cut mine once i get it dialed in. I make the cut so that the bracket is 1mm above the cut end of stay, thus eliminating need for rubber protector caps. Prevents cut knuckles/clothing/gear.

If you fit fender very close to tire, you can't ever go up in tire size, for say, dirt road conditions. So either fit them for 26x2.0" tires, or leave adequate gap above current mounted tire. Or not - its your bike.

SKS fenders work just as well in rain backed off a ways as they do smack on top. However, a gap leaves room for mud in treads which is a good idea IMO.

BTW with P50s the biggest tire you can fit is ~1.75" depending on presence of knobs/tread design. I prefer 60 or 65mm because this allows room for up to 2" tire.

Fitting fenders properly is very time consuming. Can be a real test of resourcefulness and patience.

I suggest you look at veloorange.com VO fenders. Most front fenders (SKS,PB) are too short circumference-wise, and the ones with pre-mounted mudflaps are even worse. The front fender needs to go low - then add homemade mudflap so that its ~2" above ground. This is critical to keeping your feet dry, chain clean etc. Std front fenders are at least a couple inches too short for maximum effectiveness. I've actually used SKS rears on the front, cut down a bit. Which is a helluva lot of work. If you're gonna do all that, then you might as well do it right and get some VO fenders which are adequate length and hardware allows one to make a custom, professional installation.

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Yep. You have to cut the stays with bolt cutters. Don't cut them yet because if you have to put on a rack which uses the rear eyelet on your fork then these will have to be reattached to some piece of metal that attaches to the front rack because the front rack is using the rear eyelet.

And don't put on those caps yet! If you have and you need to pull them out, try to do it gently. If you ruin them, however, your LBS may have extra endcaps.

As for the rears, you can get even spacing between tire and fender by using a longer bolt on the bottom and a coupla nuts as spacers. It'll be just as good as the front.

You should see if you can get P55's. Those are supposed to fit perfect. I've never seen them anywhere.
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Fitting fenders properly is very time consuming. Can be a real test of resourcefulness and patience.
+1 - I've had good luck with Planet Bike Cascadia fenders on my 26" wheeled bikes. They fit 2.0" XRs nicely.
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Thanks all- off to find 55's. or bolt cutters...
The VO's look like nice fenders, but I want black...

WTH do all the catalogs list the 50's as 700c/26. Just ain't so...
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Thanks all- off to find 55's. or bolt cutters...
The VO's look like nice fenders, but I want black...

WTH do all the catalogs list the 50's as 700c/26. Just ain't so...
Did you or anyone else put p55's on a 26 inch wheeled LHT? I'm having a hell of a time finding fenders that fit correctly.
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Did you or anyone else put p55's on a 26 inch wheeled LHT? I'm having a hell of a time finding fenders that fit correctly.
Most distributors don't carry the P55 so I've never tried them. SKS P50 and P65 fenders will both fit the 26" wheeled LHT, but it takes a little extra work. To get the best fender position with the stock tires, you need to make a few additions to the standard hardware.

You need to add a spacer between the fender and the chainstay bridge, and use a long bolt in the threaded eyelet. Don't use the clip included with the fenders.

Sometimes the fender is too high at the seatstay bridge. To lower it, make a small bracket with two holes in it about 1cm apart, and bolt the bracket to the bridge, and the fender to the lower hole in the bracket.

Lastly, the fender struts need to be cut shorter. The easy way to do this is to leave the caps off, do all your adjusting, then cut them with bolt cutters at the very end. File the sharp edge down if you're nervous, then do this:

Just stick the caps on the end of the stays. SKS used to include simple caps that went on the end, I don't know why they made it more complicated.

The next time someone here at the shop installs SKS fenders on an LHT I'll post more detailed pictures.
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I did the Planet Bike Hard Cores because of the SKS tire width restrictions for my 26" LHT. Black, wide and simple installation.

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Most distributors don't carry the P55 so I've never tried them. SKS P50 and P65 fenders will both fit the 26" wheeled LHT, but it takes a little extra work. To get the best fender position with the stock tires, you need to make a few additions to the standard hardware.

You need to add a spacer between the fender and the chainstay bridge, and use a long bolt in the threaded eyelet. Don't use the clip included with the fenders.

Sometimes the fender is too high at the seatstay bridge. To lower it, make a small bracket with two holes in it about 1cm apart, and bolt the bracket to the bridge, and the fender to the lower hole in the bracket.

Lastly, the fender struts need to be cut shorter. The easy way to do this is to leave the caps off, do all your adjusting, then cut them with bolt cutters at the very end. File the sharp edge down if you're nervous, then do this:

Just stick the caps on the end of the stays. SKS used to include simple caps that went on the end, I don't know why they made it more complicated.

The next time someone here at the shop installs SKS fenders on an LHT I'll post more detailed pictures.
Are the P50's and the Esge P50's the same?

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fenders.asp
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They are the same. They stopped selling them as "Esge" a while back.
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They are the same. They stopped selling them as "Esge" a while back.
Kevin,

So ultimately, what do you think I should do w/ my LHT? Just go with the p50's, or look around for the 55's, or go with something else?

Thanks for such a detailed description of the mounting process... (man, that sounds a bit dirty).
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Depends on the tire size you'll end up using. For the stock tires I would just use the P50s since they're easy to find, if you want to be able to fit wider tires, get the P65s. If you do want to go wider, get the tires first, or you might end up installing the fenders twice.
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Depends on the tire size you'll end up using. For the stock tires I would just use the P50s since they're easy to find, if you want to be able to fit wider tires, get the P65s. If you do want to go wider, get the tires first, or you might end up installing the fenders twice.
Would the 65's be too wide though? I'm using a 1.5 tire and doubt I'd go bigger... might be nice though....
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Would the 65's be too wide though? I'm using a 1.5 tire and doubt I'd go bigger... might be nice though....
I've paired 65's with 1.75 inch tires. I like the way they look, but a thinner tire would need a narrower fender, IMO.

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