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Old 10-16-08, 03:44 PM   #1
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IRO Jamie Roy for touring

Anyone have any thoughts on converting the IRO Jamie Roy into a touring machine?

I was thinking I could throw an 8 speed hub on the back like Sheldon Brown's IRO.

It has the fender/rack mounts, and the high spoke count wheels to start with, but would this aluminum frame be strong enough to handle touring?
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Old 10-16-08, 04:14 PM   #2
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Maybe. Depends a bit on how long you intend to tour, what kind of touring, and how long you expect to do with the bike the rest of the time.

My general feeling is: you can tour on almost anything for up to 2 weeks straight, as long as the gearing is low enough and the chainstays are long enough. More than 2 weeks and you'll probably start to appreciate a few specific things:

• robust frame and components
• wide tires, and maybe the ability to take fenders
• stable geometry & handling
• can soak up road buzz
• multiple hand positions

Or, you might just not be a very picky cyclist, in which case I think you'd be fine.

I went for a Surly Cross Check, which isn't an όber tourer, but is very versatile and is good on gravel and dirt paths. The CC is steel, is available as a frameset, and has horizontal dropouts. Putting an IH on one should be no problem.

Similar frames include the Salsa Casseroll and Soma Double Cross. Not sure which of those has vertical or horizontal dropouts.
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Thanks Baccia. I'm definitely not a picky cyclist. I'm not far removed from riding complete jalopies.

It seems like the Jamie Roy would only have trouble meeting your 'soak up road buzz' requirement. Aluminum seems to transfer a lot of that.

I'm looking to do Boston to Mexico City, so it'll definitely be longer than 2 weeks and there will obviously be some inclines to tackle there.
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Changing a tire on a fendered bicycle with horizontal track dropouts like the Jamie Roy must be a monumental pain. Would you have to remove fender to change tire since JR has track dropouts?
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Changing a tire on a fendered bicycle with horizontal track dropouts like the Jamie Roy must be a monumental pain. Would you have to remove fender to change tire since JR has track dropouts?
Not sure about track or the JR, but it's not a huge deal on the CC. The fender goes right against a small crossbar that runs between the chainstays, so it doesn't restrict you from moving the tire any further forward than without the fenders.


santana: Y'know, I used to think frame material matters, now I'm not so sure. I think if your tires are wide enough and with a lower psi, you might not notice the difference. I also have a theory that the extra weight from baggage somehow reduces some of the vibrations.
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"but it's not a huge deal on the CC. The fender goes right against a small crossbar that runs between the chainstays, so it doesn't restrict you from moving tire any further forward..."

You have horizontal dropouts with openings facing forward, the Jamie Roy has track dropouts with openings facing backwards. To remove tire you have to pull wheel backwards.
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^Just fit sks quick release mudguard mounts to your rear mudguard if this is your problem.
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You have horizontal dropouts with openings facing forward, the Jamie Roy has track dropouts with openings facing backwards. To remove tire you have to pull wheel backwards.
Gotcha, would definitely be a pain. The things you learn...
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I have a iro rob roy with track ends and fenders. There are no issues taking the rear wheel off, the fender stay does not block the the axle at all. I imagine the jamie roy is similar.
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