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Old 01-03-09, 01:11 PM   #1
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Drooling over a Miyata 1000

About this time of the year, I start lurking on eBay looking at all the tourers. A few days ago, I discovered a 1988 Miyata 1000 which looks like it has been kept up pretty good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miyata-1000-tour...3A1|240%3A1318

I've been staring at this thing for several days and have to confess I'm now at the drooling stage.

I'm guessing it's over-priced and I feel a sharp pain in my legs when I look at the chainring, but does anyone think these Miyatas are nice? Are they very rare? I've never seen one on eBay before..
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Old 01-03-09, 01:38 PM   #2
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Looks nice. It's already been upgraded to 9 speed. You could change the crank/chainrings to lower the gear range. Racks included. Fancy saddle. I don't think it's overpriced.

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About this time of the year, I start lurking on eBay looking at all the tourers. A few days ago, I discovered a 1988 Miyata 1000 which looks like it has been kept up pretty good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miyata-1000-tour...3A1|240%3A1318

I've been staring at this thing for several days and have to confess I'm now at the drooling stage.

I'm guessing it's over-priced and I feel a sharp pain in my legs when I look at the chainring, but does anyone think these Miyatas are nice? Are they very rare? I've never seen one on eBay before..

I want one really bad also. The Miyata 1000 is one of the best mass produced tourers ever made (not to start an arguement<sp>). I haven't found one in my size yet 59/60. They don't pop up that often so if this is one is your size i'd jump on it. My guess is it will go for around $600.

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Beautiful lines. That monster spare rack looks like a serious luggage carrier.
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Just my size too...
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Just to endorse what is stated above - the Miyata 1000 was one of the best tourers of the 80's. The same frame shows up on eBay / Craigslist as the Univega Specialissima; Miyata tend to sell for more.

The thing I would add about this one is:
- It's in great shape
- Has some very impressive component upgrades
- Racks included
- Pricey, $140-ish saddle included as well.

I used to own a Specialissima so I'm a big fan of this bike. I'll be interested in seeing what it sells for.
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it said it has a 9 speed block ,check it out there are only 7sprocket's on there , other than that nice looking bike.
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At $600, this bike will be a steal. Now that you have posted it here, I imagine it will go for more.
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Old 01-03-09, 07:07 PM   #9
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At $600, this bike will be a steal. Now that you have posted it here, I imagine it will go for more.
Last time I look, it was up to $470. The next time I see one of these, I'll keep it to myself.
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Tough call-- It's a nice bike, but it's used. $600 wouldn't be a bad deal. It's got nice wheels, saddle, newer derailers/shifters, good cantilever brakes......but you can get a new touring bike at BD or other internet retailer for $700-800, new. Very tough call.

One bad thing about buying used bikes right now. Suckers will pay for Old School. I'm currently trading an older lugged Specialized frame (Surris, about a '89) for a new Surly Crosscheck frame (never built, new from QBP). To many wannabes out there....
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It's an awesome bike. As some one else stated, it was teh pinnacle of the mass produced touring bike in the 80's.

Around $600 to $700 seems a reasonable representation to what I see them go for in a transaction where both parties know what they are selling/buying. I passed on an NOS example back in the summer for $1200. It was a great example, but I would have immediatley ridden it and it would have no longer been NOS.

I've had my eyes open for a Specialissma for a while now.
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Last time I look, it was up to $470. The next time I see one of these, I'll keep it to myself.
I should note that when I said $600 would be a good deal, I meant net, including shipping.
Most of us wouldn't ever snipe a fellow member, but there are a lot of lurkers out there. It was also posted on the C&V Ebay Finds thread, though. That generally means there will be a lot of action in the last 10 seconds. Most of those people use a sniping service like EZSniper.
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Old 01-04-09, 05:57 PM   #13
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it said it has a 9 speed block ,check it out there are only 7sprocket's on there , other than that nice looking bike.
It has 9. Count from under the chain stay.

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Sold for $760 plus 60 shipping.

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Old 01-04-09, 07:35 PM   #14
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Wow... sold for $760 plus $60 shipping...
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Beautiful bike, interesting auction.

Usually when I see older tourers on eBay they are either (a) very, very used, and need a total rebuild; the value is in the frame or (b) are lightly used and original - someone used them for a couple of years and then put them away. Even in great shape, a Miyata of this age would need work to be as good as the bike in this auction, IMHO, because of the updates and accessories.

This is one of the few examples I've seen of such a nicely updated bike. I'm sure the new owner will enjoy it.

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Wow... sold for $760 plus $60 shipping...
Yeah, I thought for sure that it would go in the mid $800 range.
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I am now tempted to sell my 1986 Miyata 1000!
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Get the 1000, clean it up and sell it here after you get your Platinum star. I paid $600 for a used one (shop demo model) 25 years ago and toured several times in the Rockies before a careless motorist smashed us in Denver. I still have the frame, bent and cracked in case I someday have the cash to have it re-brazed. I would save it for fun touring as I have a Bruce Gordon for the really horrid stuff. Size? I dunno, I'm 6'0" and it fits like a dream.
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The same frame shows up on eBay / Craigslist as the Univega Specialissima;
Nice to know- thanks for the tip.
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Beautiful bike, interesting auction.

Usually when I see older tourers on eBay they are either (a) very, very used, and need a total rebuild; the value is in the frame or (b) are lightly used and original - someone used them for a couple of years and then put them away. Even in great shape, a Miyata of this age would need work to be as good as the bike in this auction, IMHO, because of the updates and accessories.

This is one of the few examples I've seen of such a nicely updated bike. I'm sure the new owner will enjoy it.
I think the owner did pretty well. I thought about bidding on it and I think I would have been satisfied with the price. It looks like older ones, not updated, were selling recently for about $600.

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It's surprising to see that it sold a couple of hundred dollars shy of a new LHT. I'd guess by the time the new owner gets it all up to speed it will cost a little more.

Is it that nice a frame? I like the lugged look and all, but it seems like a lot of money. What did they sell for in 1988?
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And now I see another http://cgi.ebay.com/miyata-1000-tour...3%3A1|294%3A50

Beautiful paint. 1983. Looks in great shape.

Do these people even ride these things? My 4 year old Volpe looks like it's been thru a wringer in comparison to this thing.
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Yeah, last year the 1000 was going for around $650, this last summer I have seen the prices more around $750-850. More often than not, closer to the $850 mark. Trek 520s and 720s have also risen. The 520 usually sells around $600-650 and the 720 usually around $750. The 620 is way cheaper. I passed on one a couple of months ago because I thought the price would go up more than I had at the time to spend on a new bike.

Even though the 620 is a better bike, it usually sells much cheaper because it is not as well known. I thought it would probably sell for around $250-350. It sold for $112. It was my size also. I should have bid on it, I might of had a chance of getting it.
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Is it that nice a frame? I like the lugged look and all, but it seems like a lot of money. What did they sell for in 1988?
I bought my Univega Specialissima in 1982 for about $500 (it was either $475 or $550; I forget).

In inflation-adjusted dollars that would be about $1,100 today.

My hazy memory is that Miyatas and Univegas were similar in price for similar bikes.

As I recall at that time I couldn't get another full-fledged touring bike unless I bought a Bob Jackson frame or a Dawes, both of which would have cost more.
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