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Old 01-26-09, 01:50 AM   #1
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Buying touring bike in Germany/Switzerland

Would anyone know of good places to find second hand bikes/ gear in either of these countries (in preparation for touring). I have heard of annual equipment fairs in Germany?? Are there newspapers of sellers that I can peruse?
Thanks for your help.
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Old 01-26-09, 04:22 AM   #2
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Here's a site for used bikes in Switzerland: http://www.velomarkt.ch/veloboerse.php

You could also check out ebay Switzerland: http://sport.shop.ebay.ch/items/Fahr...QQ_sacatZ33502

Renting from a bike shop is also an option. Two years ago a buddy rented one (with rear panniers) for two weeks for CHF200.

Good luck!
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Old 01-26-09, 04:28 AM   #3
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Try this.. (these links are all Swiss)
New Bikes
http://www.fahrradbaustolz.ch/
http://www.aarios.ch/

Used Bikes
http://www.ricardo.ch/kaufen/sports/...l/cn43886/ln2/
http://www.velomarkt.ch/veloboerse.p...11&subcatid=32
http://www.veloplus.ch/veloinserate/...tailthemaId=27
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Would anyone know of good places to find second hand bikes/ gear in either of these countries (in preparation for touring). I have heard of annual equipment fairs in Germany?? Are there newspapers of sellers that I can peruse?
I'm not sure what you mean with "equipment fair" but I'm suspecting you're talking about the ifma and the Eurobike. These two are trade shows that are interesting events to go to but not the place to buy a used bike.

In Germany, used bikes are either bought on ebay.de or kijiji.de, the German equivalent to craigslist (cl does exist but it's small an used mostly by American expats, it seems). In larger cities you'll also find bike shops that sell used bikes. I know a couple of places in Berlin. Larger cities will also have printed city magazines that will have a classifieds section; however, I'm under the impression that they're no longer too good, due to competition from the online places.

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Old 01-26-09, 09:20 AM   #5
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Another thought: It takes weeks, if not years to get a touring bike set up the way you want it. Or is that just me? I've toured on rented bikes and I'll never do it again. Have you considered bring your bike with you after you've had a few shake-downs?
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Old 01-26-09, 09:46 AM   #6
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I second that motion. Buy your bike locally, live with it for at least a few months (to give you time to make the inevitable adjustments that you and it will need), and then bring or ship the bicycle to its destination.

The design philosophy of touring bicycles varies from country to country. The touring bikes I saw in Germany and Switzerland were different than the ones that I see closer to home. In my part of the world (Toronto), I would say that about 50% of touring bikes are "old school" (based on classic touring bike designs of the 1970s and 1980s, with drop bars), 30% are based on hybrids, and 20% based on mountain bikes. In Germany and Switzerland, I saw few (if any) old school touring bikes; almost all were modified mountain and hybrid designs, often outfitted with butterfly bars.

So if you have a particular touring bike style in mind, understand that it may not be a popular one in other parts of the world.
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Old 01-26-09, 09:51 AM   #7
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Hi,

search for "Fahrradbörse +<City>" when you'll find a lot of possibilities.

If you need additional equipment go to the next bicycle shop and you'll find something. For brands like SON or Rohloff you have to go some special shops but eg. panniers (Vaude or Ortlieb) normally every second shop has then on stock.

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takes a long time to get a touring bike set up the way you like it? that was not my experience. knowing what a proper bike fit IS does help. knowing what you need is essential - (for me - knowing mountains meant LOW gearing and changing the stock gearing contributed greatly to the success of the trip.

i didn't live with my trek 520 for months before my first tour (an 1100 miler, three weeks), I bought it on monday, left the next sunday. I only did a 30 mile shakedown cruise to get the feel of it when it was heavily loaded.

I knew what I wanted, and what the definition of success was before I started the whole process. To get there, I dealt with a shop that had a lot of touring knowledge, and asked a jillion questions here on line. The bike and the tour (solo and unsupported ) were 100% precent successful.

your experience may vary though.
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Hi jbpence,

You were lucky that things worked out right off the bat. Every bike I have ever purchased -- all three of them! -- had "issues" early on that needed sorting out. This also happened with a custom-made touring bike, which, I hasten to add, is very close to being exactly right. But it took adjustments -- to me, to my expectations, and to the bike -- before it became the delicious bicycle it is today.
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Thanks for your help!

Those websites are really great. we are looking forward to getting to Switz!
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There's the Frankfurt Radreise-Markt 2009 on March 15th.
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Those websites are really great. we are looking forward to getting to Switz!
If you're moving to Switzerland then check out englishforum.ch, and in particular the thread "Cycling in Switzerland".
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