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Old 03-15-17, 09:31 AM   #351
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You could save a ton of weight by making some different choices. It will be interesting to hear the total weight of what all your gear weighs.
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Old 03-16-17, 07:00 AM   #352
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You could save a ton of weight by making some different choices. It will be interesting to hear the total weight of what all your gear weighs.
Granted you're right, I could get rid of those two luxury items (folding table / Chair) as they run right at 2 Lbs a piece and the water filters is 1Lb. = so we are looking at roughly 5 Lbs there. Don't think that doesn't literally weigh in at 5 Lbs on my mind. But I was thinking with all the other crap that I"m seeing people are carrying in the way of computers and cameras, I may not actually be pushing the limits all that bad. The one thing that does have me concerned is water, should I pick up any water along the way, the weight of water is likely to add up quickly. I've got some nice 3 Liter water bottles I've been saving, however one Liter of water weighs in at approximately 2 Lbs... man that will get heavy quick.

So what other choices could we make to lighten up the load?
The sleeping bag, tent, tent foot print, sleeping pad all come in pretty light weight made for hikers.
Truly, I'd be so tempted to send 2/3 rds of this stuff home once I hit RT.66 because I"m sure there will be a slug of hotels / motels along that way..... however you can darn well bet that one day when I'm too damn tired or can't make it to the next best town. I'll wish I had not have shipped something back home. I'll see what happens when I get this all packed out for the first time, weighed and make a few local practice runs locally.
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Old 03-16-17, 08:31 AM   #353
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Granted you're right, I could get rid of those two luxury items (folding table / Chair) as they run right at 2 Lbs a piece and the water filters is 1Lb. = so we are looking at roughly 5 Lbs there. Don't think that doesn't literally weigh in at 5 Lbs on my mind. But I was thinking with all the other crap that I"m seeing people are carrying in the way of computers and cameras, I may not actually be pushing the limits all that bad. The one thing that does have me concerned is water, should I pick up any water along the way, the weight of water is likely to add up quickly. I've got some nice 3 Liter water bottles I've been saving, however one Liter of water weighs in at approximately 2 Lbs... man that will get heavy quick.

So what other choices could we make to lighten up the load?
The sleeping bag, tent, tent foot print, sleeping pad all come in pretty light weight made for hikers.
Truly, I'd be so tempted to send 2/3 rds of this stuff home once I hit RT.66 because I"m sure there will be a slug of hotels / motels along that way..... however you can darn well bet that one day when I'm too damn tired or can't make it to the next best town. I'll wish I had not have shipped something back home. I'll see what happens when I get this all packed out for the first time, weighed and make a few local practice runs locally.
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Hi and congrat with a beautyful touring bike

What is the weight on all your gear?
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Old 03-29-17, 09:37 AM   #354
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Finished this one yesterday.
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Very nice looking bike, you use the charge saddle for touring as well?
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Old 03-30-17, 10:42 AM   #356
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Very nice looking bike, you use the charge saddle for touring as well?
Thanks. Only if I like it! I've just ridden it for the past week since i finished the build, so it's too early to tell. So far it's pretty decent, but i fear that I am going to miss a cut out.
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Old 03-30-17, 10:52 AM   #357
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Thanks. Only if I like it! I've just ridden it for the past week since i finished the build, so it's too early to tell. So far it's pretty decent, but i fear that I am going to miss a cut out.
Yes was wondering about that, I've ridden mine for dayrides of 130km but that was on a carbon track frame so slightly different geometry.
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Granted you're right, I could get rid of those two luxury items (folding table / Chair) as they run right at 2 Lbs a piece and the water filters is 1Lb. = so we are looking at roughly 5 Lbs there. Don't think that doesn't literally weigh in at 5 Lbs on my mind. But I was thinking with all the other crap that I"m seeing people are carrying in the way of computers and cameras, I may not actually be pushing the limits all that bad. The one thing that does have me concerned is water, should I pick up any water along the way, the weight of water is likely to add up quickly. I've got some nice 3 Liter water bottles I've been saving, however one Liter of water weighs in at approximately 2 Lbs... man that will get heavy quick.

So what other choices could we make to lighten up the load?
The sleeping bag, tent, tent foot print, sleeping pad all come in pretty light weight made for hikers.
Truly, I'd be so tempted to send 2/3 rds of this stuff home once I hit RT.66 because I"m sure there will be a slug of hotels / motels along that way..... however you can darn well bet that one day when I'm too damn tired or can't make it to the next best town. I'll wish I had not have shipped something back home. I'll see what happens when I get this all packed out for the first time, weighed and make a few local practice runs locally.
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You've got decent gear might as well use it.
But since you asked what would be lighter.
a 1 lb chair can't remember the brand, see Rei. There are tents 1/2 the wt of the Hubba/hubba. Z packs Ti stakes. My 30* down quilt weighs 1/3 of your sleeping bag. No need for a 2nd sleeping bag. Use 1 or the other. Whisperjet is a very heavy stove, 13 oz ?, as well as the fuel bottle is heavy. A canister stove is 2-3 oz. A 4 oz canister is about 8 oz gross wt. There are lighter ways to make coffee. Sawyer water filter is 2-3 oz, works well. Do you really need 1 at all. 1 pr of shorts not 3. Can you cut out the tablet? No duplicates on clothes except cycling shorts and jersey. well socks. Take some weekend trips and see what you don't use or need.
Have a great trip and enjoy.

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Old 03-30-17, 05:01 PM   #359
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Well done masterchief, almost too pretty to ride, almost.

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Old 03-30-17, 05:10 PM   #360
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Gday All

I'm in Australia and according to my lbs there is no 520's avail in the country. I usually ride a 58cm road racing bike and a very old Giant Expedition (Excursion) in a 57cm center to center tourer. 60cm road bikes have always felt too big. My Giant is very worn and would need new wheels and driveline so I was thinking of getting another bike. I found a used Trek 520 but it is 4 hours away. The size is 57cm. My inseam from floor to crotch is 85cm so I'm thinking that this frame size is too small. But since it is the only one avail in the country I thought I would ask you experts for some tips.

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Old 04-03-17, 04:22 AM   #361
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Those fenders?

I could use fenders like those, what kind are they?
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Old 04-03-17, 07:59 AM   #362
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Masterchief, that bike of yours looks like it just came out of the factory. Nice work mate !
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Old 04-03-17, 08:58 AM   #363
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Trek 520 Disc fully loaded, first run

Well all you guys telling me my gear was too heavy, I hate to admit but you're right. CRAP !!!!
Either it's too heavy, I'm too heavy or I'm just getting old and too weak. May wind up being a combination of all of the above. I appreciate all of the input posted above, just wish I knew about some of this light weight camping gear such as a lighter sleeping bag and tent before I bought all of the equipment. It cost a good deal of cash to get prepared for all of this and I had no help or input from anyone around here until after the fact, then it seems like I started to find the bike forum and a few folks from the local hiking community that had some better ideas. So as they say (who ever they are) "IT IS WHAT IT IS..... " This is the gear I've got for right now and I'm going to have to go with it some how. In fact I'm almost considering changing over to a Trek ALUMINUM bike and pulling a small trailer. Combination of the two will come in about the same weight as the Trek 520 alone. But one other thing to consider here that I never even thought of while we are counting OUNCES AND POUNDS was the weight of the panniers and handlebar bags alone! Yes..... the panniers... The Ortlieb bags front and bag combined weigh in at nearly 7 LBs all by themselves and the front handlebar bag at 2 Lbs. Round it up to that of carrying an extra 10 Lbs bag of Potatoes in empty panniers alone!~ Good Grief. Maybe we should be packing our crap into tall green plastic garbage bags. Therefore with the aluminum bike and trailer idea I've knocked off 10 LBs in Ortlieb bags right off the top. Yet I see folks touring all the time with this much gear, either they are a lot stronger and younger than I am or I need a lot more time in the saddle before I can successfully pull this off. ~~ And I wasn't even carrying the damn 3 LB lock I bought as I now continue look around for something lighter to use.

I've been following Johnny Lamb at Milestone Rides for a while now. If you have the time check out the weight this crew is carrying as they are making the Southern Tier trip right now as we speak from West to East. At the beginning of the video they weigh out their load, it's about the same as mine for my test run last week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1p...ature=youtu.be

If any of you guys are feeling benevolent you might consider helping these guys out a little bit assuming it doesn't break the piggy bank.
https://gogetfunding.com/tour-de-forty/



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3/29/17 Rode the TREK 520 Disc 33 Lb Steel bike today with panniers loaded. Packed with my gear that totaled out to be about 53 Lbs of cargo spread between the front and rear bags which included about 7 Lbs in the handlebar bag. Bike weight is 33 lbs (Note front rack alone weighs 3 Lbs 10 Oz. almost 4 Lbs. I'm thinking of removing it and combing the saddle bags to try and lightening up on the load) My weight 188 Lbs, need to lighten up on this load as well. Altogether today's weight = 274 Lbs total. Used a bathroom scale on the side walk and picked up the bike before departure which gave me my combined weight while holding the bike. Not an easy ride for me at this point in time on a fully loaded touring bike. I really wanted to pull off a 50 mile ride today, but thought it would be better not to push my luck. I did however manage to garner a lot of attention by people asking questions about the bike fully packed out ready for a road trip. The actual bike weight at 33 Lbs and Cargo combined came in at = 83 Lbs and that seemed to be the question most often asked. How heavy is that rig ? Some how I managed to make it back to where I started and completed my usual 33 mile run. Not yet good enough to go across country. I really need to average 50 mile a day or better.
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Old 04-03-17, 09:14 AM   #364
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Hi and congrat with a beautiful touring bike

What is the weight on all your gear?
Thank you.

As you will have likely already noted in my last posting the load comes in pretty heavy roughly 53 LBs.
But then again if we subtract the nearly 10 Lbs for the panniers alone, we are down around 43 pounds for the gear itself.
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You might look at your gearing. An easy place to start. Think gear inches, here is a link.
You can get this heavy riding massaged out. We all start somewhere. Glad you got a ride in.

Bicycle gear inch calculator

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You might look at your gearing. An easy place to start. Think gear inches, here is a link.
You can get this heavy riding massaged out. We all start somewhere. Glad you got a ride in.

Bicycle gear inch calculator

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In all honesty I had hoped by getting the Tried & True Trek 520 that all that would have been worked out long ago by the Trek engineers. I think the gearing in my Fat Arse maybe needs some more work! Hee Hee Hey I'm not about to give up this soon. I plan on take some local rides and camping trips around my state in the very near future and doing some more short rides with the load, with any luck it will get easier in time.


By the way Johnny's Milestone Rides are making progress on the Southern Tier, check out the beautiful sun set they ran into last night coming across the desert.
Now isn't that what we would all like to be doing right now!
I know I would rather be out there, than sitting behind a keyboard, but it's raining here in Atlanta GA today.
Maybe on the trail tomorrow.


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I could use fenders like those, what kind are they?
Trek has some Bontrager lightweight plastic ones if those are of interest to you.
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/u...ender/p/09150/
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Did a couple of tweaks in the winter, added Shimano bar-end shifters and a stem raiser. Not much more I want to add for now, I might build 700C wheels eventually to replace the 27" for better tire selection, but other than that I find it's perfect for my needs right now and I really enjoy the ride, so smooth!

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Tried to take some close up pictures of the 2017 Trek 520 Disc tonight. A few of them came out a little bit blurry, using the flash in the garage and it didn't work out too well. Never the less, wanted to show off the little girls yellow dress! Well sort of, just got the new Ortlieb panniers for this baby this week. If you buy these things, be prepared to spend and hour figuring them out! The instructions are a bit vague and you'll want to spend some time getting them set up right. I'LL have to break this up into two postings, only five pictures per posting.
Did those front rack adapters come with the rack? Or did you source them from somewhere else? thanks.
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Did those front rack adapters come with the rack? Or did you source them from somewhere else? thanks.
If you're asking about the rack on my TREK 520 Disc, that rack is a SURLY rack and everything came with the rack.
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