Stainless steel water bottles?
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Hi Russ,
First, love your site. I'm a pretty steady Velo Orange customer, and I like/use the leather bar wrap and chainstay protectors from there. I'm also a fan of Chris' kayaks. But I like this solution better for a few reasons: First, the bottles are quiet and snug in the King Iris cages. Second, the hemp stays a little fuzzy, so it's not slippery like a "nude" stainless bottle. It's probably a little bit better insulating, too. On cold mornings, the wrap is especially nice on the fingers. When it gets too fuzzy, a quick coat of shellac (once every several months) puts things as right as new.
Sorry for the delay. We were outdoors over the weekend!
Mark
First, love your site. I'm a pretty steady Velo Orange customer, and I like/use the leather bar wrap and chainstay protectors from there. I'm also a fan of Chris' kayaks. But I like this solution better for a few reasons: First, the bottles are quiet and snug in the King Iris cages. Second, the hemp stays a little fuzzy, so it's not slippery like a "nude" stainless bottle. It's probably a little bit better insulating, too. On cold mornings, the wrap is especially nice on the fingers. When it gets too fuzzy, a quick coat of shellac (once every several months) puts things as right as new.
Sorry for the delay. We were outdoors over the weekend!
Mark
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Aesthetically, stainless steel bottles are appealing, but for practical purposes, I will continue to use plastic ones for now.
Re: risks of ingesting carcinogenic materials from plastic bottles that have been baking in the sun... I am not a chemist, but my perspective is that the fumes from automobiles and trucks that we share the road with are also injurious, yet we continue to tour. My understanding is that only certain kinds of plastic are thought to be potentially dangerous, and that these plastics are no longer used.
Re: risks of ingesting carcinogenic materials from plastic bottles that have been baking in the sun... I am not a chemist, but my perspective is that the fumes from automobiles and trucks that we share the road with are also injurious, yet we continue to tour. My understanding is that only certain kinds of plastic are thought to be potentially dangerous, and that these plastics are no longer used.
On Friday a new study was published that found hormone-mimicing compounds released by plastic water bottles. The researchers found significant estrogen contamination in a majority of the bottles.
Link to Study
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Guess I should of clarified what I wanted the SS bottles for. They are not for club rides or anything of the like. I want to use them for touring. Hence, the post in the touring forum
I am fine with plastic bottle for commuting. But, to be honest when I am going to have a mixture of drinks in a hot bottle all day long. Plastic is not my first choice. Just my preference.
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friction tape on the cage works too
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According to me stainless steel is more durable than other bottles. I have always preferred 12 oz stainless steel bottle because certain chemicals found in plastic bottles they can effects on every system in our bodies.
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No worries cryston, all the posters who were using plastic bottles from 9 years back have all passed on due to leeching issues. May they rest in peace.
I agree that plastic bottles sometimes have a funny taste to the water, especially when hot, but just have never gotten around to getting metal ones that fit properly and safely in my cages.
I agree that plastic bottles sometimes have a funny taste to the water, especially when hot, but just have never gotten around to getting metal ones that fit properly and safely in my cages.
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I've found that the Contigo line of bottles work very well with bike cages.
My current bottle is a Contigo 20 OZ insulated flip top bottle.
https://www.amazon.com/Contigo-AUTOS...dp/B01BD0R8PU/
It does, however, rattle as the OP mentioned. I'm using a stainless cage, and perhaps a plastic cage would be better.
Some of their auto coffee mugs also fit well in the bike cages, and the button operation works well, although sipping hot coffee on the road is odd.
My current bottle is a Contigo 20 OZ insulated flip top bottle.
https://www.amazon.com/Contigo-AUTOS...dp/B01BD0R8PU/
It does, however, rattle as the OP mentioned. I'm using a stainless cage, and perhaps a plastic cage would be better.
Some of their auto coffee mugs also fit well in the bike cages, and the button operation works well, although sipping hot coffee on the road is odd.
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No worries cryston, all the posters who were using plastic bottles from 9 years back have all passed on due to leeching issues. May they rest in peace.
I agree that plastic bottles sometimes have a funny taste to the water, especially when hot, but just have never gotten around to getting metal ones that fit properly and safely in my cages.
I agree that plastic bottles sometimes have a funny taste to the water, especially when hot, but just have never gotten around to getting metal ones that fit properly and safely in my cages.
I've been using Velo Orange Mojave cages, which fit a nalgene sized bottle. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a nalgene sized bottle with bike bottle style spout that allows you to drink without stopping and removing the lid.
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which in all seriousness is why I just stick with regular old plastic bike bottles. I have ridden a lot in hot weather, and quick easy regular sips of water is a big part of being able to look after my body properly and avoiding dehydration when riding in 30c-40c temps.
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We've switched to Kleen Kanteens. Super nice. No funky tastes or odors. They clank in the aluminum cages, but some tape cures the issue. They get scratched. Meh. I've decided that its purely Tyler Durden.
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Originally Posted by NoControl
We've switched to Kleen Kanteens. Super nice. No funky tastes or odors. They clank in the aluminum cages, but some tape cures the issue. They get scratched. Meh. I've decided that its purely Tyler Durden.
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I used to soak them in the sink with lemon juice and baking soda. It worked but it was yet another pita in a long list of pitas. I bought a half-dozen Klean Kanteen 27oz, and now all we do is rotate them through the dishwasher. Very agreeable to drink from.
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We have 40oz klean kanteen bottles. That means we can carry 2.4 litres of water just in the waterbottles.
For cages I have that big velo orange cage and a Salsa anything cage. The salsa anything is handy in that I can fit a wool sock cozie on top of the bottle which keeps the liquid cooler. My wife uses the big velo orange cage and a zip tie cage, which is handy because the frame doesn't fit two large bottles in the conventional bottle cage drillings.
We like the steel bottles because there's no odour of flavor and they are easy to clean. And there's also the the sport cap which allows you to drink on the go which is really nice.
For cages I have that big velo orange cage and a Salsa anything cage. The salsa anything is handy in that I can fit a wool sock cozie on top of the bottle which keeps the liquid cooler. My wife uses the big velo orange cage and a zip tie cage, which is handy because the frame doesn't fit two large bottles in the conventional bottle cage drillings.
We like the steel bottles because there's no odour of flavor and they are easy to clean. And there's also the the sport cap which allows you to drink on the go which is really nice.
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I agree with you , and this is really great news that people have started to avoid plastic water bottles, but why anyone didn't started selling water in cans?
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That said, I don't use stainless steel bottles unless I'm planning on boiling something in one...which is almost never.
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You can get water in glass bottles, but its a bit more. Are there glass bicycle water bottles that will fit in a bottle cage?
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A water bottle cage is pretty basic, I have used multiple bottles, including a polar insulated bottle and they all fit well and snugly, with no worry of falling off.
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Why do they even make plastic bottles anymore?
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In regard to this thread, and the comments about SS water bottles klanking about, I did some research on big-enough diameter shrink tubing. What I found was extreme prices. I'm going to see what several coats of spray bedliner does for it.
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One can also use Bike Buddy springs - see Bicycle Bottle Carriers | Cycle Bottle Cages | Cycle Vacuum Flasks | Bornel Engineering and here is my Klean Kanteen attached to one: