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    Planning the trip of my life and can't pick a bike.

    Hello, I am new to this forum. I have posted a few different topics in the past while, but haven't been specific with my needs.

    I am an avid traveller and an avid bicyclist. However, I am new to touring. Late this summer I am planning an across Canada tour. I have a one year work contract in the Middle East. After which I am hoping to complete the ride of my dreams, to ride from Egypt down the Eastern coast all the way to South Africa. I was even pondering the idea of riding from Saudi Arabia (where I will be working) through the middle east to get there.

    I would like this bike to be an investment in all future touring trips. Ideally I would like it to be good for great distance on paved roads, but I don't want to be stuck in some part of Africa wishing that I had picked a more rugged bike.

    I need a bike that is simple to fix on the road and can handle anything.

    If the bike is truly worth the money I don't mind shelling out. However, I really don't know my options and would a cheaper bike suffice.

    Through my research the bikes that I have been looking at were the Thorn Sherpa, Thorn Nomad, Rodrigues or Sakkit (but I don't really know much about Sakkit, nor just how much they would cost.

    In regards to the Nomad, would the S&S weaken the frame at all. (I like this option) If I got the Sherpa with S&S they would nearly be the same price.

    I am not stuck on any of these bikes. They are just what I have found so far, any and all info, recommendations or help would be greatly appreciated.

    I look forward to hear what you have to say.

    Thank you

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    Another great choice would be Co-motion linky... http://www.co-motion.com/single_bike...l#productspecs

    If I had money to blow.................... this one and a few others from Co-motion are very nice.
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    After touring extensively on both a road touring bike and a mountain bike I realized that I wanted the best characteristics of both types.

    I found those in a Bruce Gordon RNR twenty years ago and would make the same choice today. When coupled with his racks you have a fine expedition bike. He offers the bike in 26 and 700C tire sizes. Well worth your consideration in my direct experience. http://bgcycles.com/rnr.html

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    Hi,

    I'd recommend a 26" bike. The cheapest option is to convert a MTB to a touring bike. I go with 57-559 Tyres. May be that's a bit too thick for you. 26" is the option for that you'll get low quality spare parts world wide (Saudi Arabia, Africa). 28" spare parts you'll find probably only in South Africa.

    For your East Africa Tour you will face bad roads (rocky, sandy) mainly in Sudan and Ethiopia. All other countries should be fine (paved or mudd roads).

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    I did state that I didn't mind shelling out, but I would also note that I don't want to break the bank either.

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    anywhere between $2000 and $4000 CAD is a price range that I would be looking at.

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    Check out Bruce Gordon's new Taiwanese BLT. It is an incredible bargain for $975 including frame, fork, headset, stem and front and rear racks. He also specializes in touring frames.

    http://www.bgcycles.com/BasicLoadedTouring.html

    If you're got more money to spend, BG has custom frames as well as complete touring bikes.

    The Surley Long Haul Trucker is the standard low-cost touring frame/bike that is often recommended here. It's got everything you need in a touring bike for a reasonable cost. The Jamis Aurora and Elite are also worth a look.

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    Based on what I've read I'd avoid the Sakkit - you are never going to find one to test ride; delivery is slow, etc.

    My short list for your requirements would be Rodriguez, Co-Motion Pangea, Burce Gordon, Thorn, or *a local builder with experience building touring bikes.* Here in Seattle we're lucky to have a builder, Bill Davidson, who has built bikes like this, and I'd trust him to build one (I own a Davidson road bike). Another option is just get a Surly LHT and save your money.

    You should also see if anyone in Canada stocks a Koga Miyata you could look at. Very nice expedition touring bikes but only one dealer in the U.S.

    There is no shortage of bikes like this given your stated budget.

    You also asked about S&S couplers -- everything I have read suggests they do *not* weaken the frame; the coupler itself is actually stronger than the frame material. Adds about half a pound in weight, costs $500 to $700 more, depending on the builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmicsurfer View Post
    I did state that I didn't mind shelling out, but I would also note that I don't want to break the bank either.



    I can't speak from experience in expedition riding like that but mostly from touring in the US,racing and owning a bike shop at one time. Bicycles aren't rocket science.

    In the category of heavy frames for heavy loads you aren't paying for better above a particular price range, you're paying for different.

    The Thorn bikes look great, esp. the Sterling EXXP..wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BengeBoy View Post
    Based on what I've read I'd avoid the Sakkit - you are never going to find one to test ride; delivery is slow, etc.
    Slow is a bit of an understatement for Bob, but it is a pretty nice bike (it's also well over $2K for the frame alone).

    Quote Originally Posted by BengeBoy View Post
    My short list for your requirements would be Rodriguez, Co-Motion Pangea, Burce Gordon, Thorn, or *a local builder with experience building touring bikes.* Here in Seattle we're lucky to have a builder, Bill Davidson, who has built bikes like this, and I'd trust him to build one (I own a Davidson road bike). Another option is just get a Surly LHT and save your money.
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    There is no shortage of bikes like this given your stated budget.
    BengeBoy and tarwheel make excellent points -- there's a bunch of good semi-production bikes out there now; much more than there were 5 years ago. You'll find happy owners on here, and all the cited bikes have good reps.

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    There are many good bikes available. 26" wheels are a good recommendation for what you are planning.

    Also, if you can get someone to set up the bike for you, including the installation of racks (quality racks and a quality installation are important; otherwise, you're likely to have problems), and hand-finishing the wheel building, it would help. It's worth finding someone good, and paying for this -- quality of the initial build is very important. I wouldn't leave it to the average bike shop mechanic.

    Trekking or expedition bikes tend to be built tougher than standard touring bikes, and 26" (559mm) wheels are more commonly used with them.

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    Excellent, highly reliable wheels are worth the added attention.

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    Last night on BBC there was coverage of a Scottish fellow riding "around the world". He had what looked like a Roholoff rear wheel and he started breaking spokes somewhere in the first 1000miles. Surprised me, I'd think a dishless rear wheel built with proper gauge spokes wouldn't break any spokes from regular use.

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    you may also try curtlo cycles. just contact him and see what he can do. he does full custome frames and forks for $970

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    seattle bike dealers

    I,m sorry to interject a similar but different question to this thread. I'm planning to buy a touring bike and i live in Puerto Rico where there are not many touring bike dealers ( most bikes sold here are road racing) I will be traveling to Seattle next month and i saw the recommendation about custom touring bike constructor in Seattle. Could you give me more information about that? I had been considering a Surly LHT or a Peter White tourer.

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    Hi, I sent you a PM as well, but in summary here are some shops to look at touring bikes in Seattle:

    - Counterbalance Cycles stocks Surly LHT, Jamis Aurora, and is our local Co-Motion dealer.
    - R&E Cycles is home of Rodriguez, www.rodcycle.com. They have 2 or 3 different models, and are all made-to-order (about 6 to 8 week lead time).
    - Bill Davidson is at www.davidsonbicycles.com. You can see a couple of his touring bikes on his website.
    - Another Surly LHT dealer is FreeRange cycles.

    There are about 40 bike shops in Seattle, the entire list is at www.cascade.org.

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    What do you guys think about the Thorn Raven Nomad?

    I think that it would be good for the rougher parts, but would it be as good for great distances an paved roads?

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    Do you really thing that the LHT would be a good choice for the back roads of africa?

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    After much research and deliberation on what bike to take for a two-year tour through Africa (and for future tours that I'll probably do), I went for a Thorn Raven Tour.
    why?
    Steel frame - think it should make for a nicer ride (don't know whether weld-ability is really a consideration
    26" wheels - more widely available worldwide than 700cc
    Rohloff hubb - expensive, but I wanted a bike that is low maintenance and reliable - I just want to ride.
    I didn't want disc brakes or suspension. A simple bike is less likely to go wrong and easier to fix.

    If you like the idea of the Rohloff, this narrows your options and Thorn seems good value - The Nomad would be a great choice. I think it would be fine for US roads but think about what tyres to go for - I've got Schwalbe XRs which seem good for general on/off-road, but there's probably something better suited if you want road speed.
    If you don't want Rohloff, suggest that if you're happy building up your own bike, get a 2nd hand one to do up - cheap and you can always replace after your first tour.

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    To the OP - given the enormous amount of information available about the Thorn and the LHT on this forum (and elsewhere on the web), what is the specific information that you are lacking that would help you make a decision?

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