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LindaB 05-25-09 12:09 PM

Lake Michigan trip and Sault St. Maire - HELP!
 
This July we're planning to ride from Milwaukee, WI to Mackinac Island. Due to time constraints we need to head home to California from there (our friends will continue on for many weeks - lucky them!). I'm hoping to get home in 2 days from Mackinac Island - 1 day to get to an airport, and 1 day to fly home.

So far the easiest looks like:
Ride St. Ignace to Sault St. Maire, MI (looks like about 52 miles) and fly home. Haven't been able to find out if the small plane out of there will take bikes yet, but the flight cost is very reasonable. Any ideas on shipping a bike from Sault St. Maire, as well as local transportation to airport etc once we are bike-less?? Are taxis readily available?

I've looked at taking a bus back to Milwaukee and flying home from there, but doesn't seem to simplify things, and adds all new problems, like bikes on bus, arrival at bus station at night, etc.

Any information on Sault St. Maire, MI or other ideas on a good way home from Mackinac Island would be much appreciated! We're experienced tourists and have packed bikes in airports in quite a few countries, but have never shipped our bikes home via UPS or other carrier.

Mr. Jim 05-25-09 09:37 PM

Ok did some quick checking including getting you to a bigger airport in a day without renting a car, not doable.

I would call the airline and see what plane is likely for your flight. As for shipping the bikes, fed ex UPS etc is similar to packing for the airlines. Problem is getting boxes etc to pack them. I am familiar with the area so let me do some checking.

Mr. Jim 05-25-09 10:04 PM

Checked Air Canada, if it is a Air Canada plane you should be good, if it is a "Jazz" plane (feeder airline) you need to check, some of them might be iffy on taking a bike. There is a Mackinac island charter service also, not sure what your budget is like.

http://www.greatlakesair.net/

Other options would be renting a car and driving to Traverse city Airport or Alpena Airport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Capital_Airport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpena_...gional_Airport

Northwest serves Alpena and Traverse is served by many airlines.

LindaB 05-26-09 09:07 AM

Jim -
Thanks so much for your efforts! The flights we're looking at are Delta - we're working on calling the airline, and hope to get an anwer today about whether they'll take a bike. The plane out of Sault St. Maire, MI is a Saab 340 Turbo Prop, which has about 40 seats. I also found Northwest Airlines flights, but not Air Canada - I'll check again.

I didn't know about Traverse City or Alpena airports, so will look at those.
Thanks,
Linda

kuan 05-26-09 09:48 AM

Could you perhaps box and ship your bike back? A LBS could do that for you.

Mr. Jim 05-26-09 11:20 AM

Kuan>no LBS I could find, they are few and far between up there. Only one is on Mackinac island and is more of a bike rental place than anything. I've traveled the area quite a bit and closest LBS i could remember is way south or West, google didn't add anything to my memory.

MichiganMike 05-26-09 01:27 PM

If you are at Mackinaw, you might want to check Pellston Airport. I believe a lot of the hotels in Mackinaw have a free shuttle to that one (they did when I rode my bike up there last year). I believe there are a few daily flights to Detroit (Northwest/Delta). From there it's pretty easy to get anywhere.

cny-bikeman 05-26-09 01:39 PM

Your choices are limited but I advise all cyclists to avoid Delta, and to object on their website feedback form to their high bicycle baggage fees - $175 per trip domestic/Canada, $300 overseas flights.

LindaB 05-26-09 09:11 PM

Thanks Jim, Mike and the rest... this is one of the knottiest transport puzzles we've ever encountered. I'm starting to think our whole trip plan is just a bad idea, but I haven't given up just yet. Delta (which is combined with NW) out of Sault St. Marie, MI will take only ONE bike per flight, at that outrageous $175 fee. Leaving one behind doesn't seem like a very good option! The other small airports (Pellston, Traverse City, Alpena) seem to use the same model small plane, so don't seem any more likely to take 2 bikes.

Tomorrow I'm going to phone all the bike rental places on Mackinac Island (6 as far as I can tell), and see what they know about boxing and shipping bikes from the island. Then just getting the two of us and our panniers to an airport and home should be relatively simple. Other option is to get us and the bikes to Pellston, rent a car or van and drive to Detroit or back to Milwaukee.

Mr. Jim 05-27-09 10:52 AM

Well if you rent a car you can save a couple hours drive and fly out of MBS (Saginaw) Airport or Flint Bishop airport. However in my experience it is much more expensive than driving to Detroit. The option to drive to Milwaukee is probably a better one as far as being scenic, the trip from Mackinac to Detroit is mind numbingly boring, while the drive across the UP of Michigan is nice.

LindaB 05-27-09 05:11 PM

I'm finally getting the pieces of this puzzle together, thanks to Jim and to Google Earth! Current plan for getting to California from Mackinac Island with bikes:
A lovely day of cycling via Mackinaw City to Harbor Springs MI.
The "Touring Gear Bike Shop" there will pack our bikes and take them to UPS. Ed there seems very helpful! (Google Earth found this shop for me).
There appear to be 2 places to stay within walking distance of the bike shop.
Next step is still a little iffy - shuttle to Traverse City Airport. So far the taxi I've found is a little pricey. Many choice of flights at quite good rates from TVC to California. (Thanks, Jim for suggesting this airport!)

Mr. Jim 05-27-09 05:52 PM

You are welcome Linda, you might post in the Great Lakes forum and see if someone from the board can give you a ride. Would be worth posting, I'm sure someone would love to help you out.

MichiganMike 05-27-09 07:13 PM

I may have missed it in the posts, but when are you planning this trip?

kdiehl 05-28-09 11:58 AM

I'll be riding from Manitowoc to Luddington in the same time period. I'm going to loop it by catching the ferry back to my car in WI.

While that doesn't help in your situation, if you see an old guy on a red Americano with yellow panniers, stop and say hello!

bwgride 05-28-09 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by kdiehl (Post 8999082)
I'll be riding from Manitowoc to Luddington in the same time period. I'm going to loop it by catching the ferry back to my car in WI.

While that doesn't help in your situation, if you see an old guy on a red Americano with yellow panniers, stop and say hello!

kdiehl -- I was just looking at that loop (except parking in Luddington rather than Manitowoc) this afternoon in an attempt to find a route a friend and I could do in late July. Do you happen to have a route planned?

LindaB 05-28-09 09:04 PM

Orignal poster here again... we'll be looking for that red Americano, bwgride! We'll be on a blue Bianchi and red LeMond with yellow Ortliebs.

We're starting to ride on July 3rd from Milwaukee, meeting our friends in Two Rivers on the 4th, riding around the coastline following the routes in "Round Lake Michigan" by Harvey Botzman. On July 15th we'll arrive on Mackinac Island. On the 16th our friends will leave to continue around Huron then the rest of Lake Michigan, we will head south to Harbor Springs, ship the bikes home thanks to the Touring Gear Bike Shop, and take a shuttle to either Pellston or Traverse City airport, and be home on July 17th. "Round Lake Michigan" is very thorough, and comes well recommended to us, so I'm hoping it provides good guidance. It can be ordered at cyclotour.com. This book gives the routes in both directions, clockwise and counterclockwise around the lake.

Now, what about the bugs rumored to be in Michigan??

Tom Stormcrowe 05-28-09 09:06 PM

Get some Deet. Black flies up on the UP are miserable and swarm you.

MichiganMike 05-29-09 04:29 AM

Funny about the bugs. I have ridden around the lake once, and every year ride up the shoreline from my home in the SW corner of MI to Mackinaw City. Have never really had a bug problem. I know others have so I must just be lucky. I am going around the lake again this year, but won't be until about a month later. Enjoy the ride. Get some smoked fish in Cut River.

kdiehl 05-29-09 09:41 AM

I'm only going for the pasties!

kdiehl 05-29-09 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by bwgride (Post 9001793)
kdiehl -- I was just looking at that loop (except parking in Luddington rather than Manitowoc) this afternoon in an attempt to find a route a friend and I could do in late July. Do you happen to have a route planned?

Nothing too special. I grew up in Michigan and I'm sure nothing has changed since I left 35 years ago, so why plan! ;)

I'm wandering the back roads from Manitowoc to Green Bay. From there to Mackinaw City, I'm just following the Lake and the Adventure Cycling map.

http://www.cherrycapitalcyclingclub.org/ has a nice paper map and links to MDOT cycling maps. I'm going to follow the shoreline, eat pasties and cherries and maybe pie.

Neil G. 05-29-09 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by kdiehl (Post 9004777)
I'm only going for the pasties!

Damn straight. I rode around the UP and northern Wisconsin a few years back, and damn, does a pasty do a good job of refueling the touring-cyclist's engine. I've now been through many other states where I say to myself "why the hell can't I get a pasty here?!?"

Neil


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