Agentbolt

It's getting closer (August 20th I leave) and I'm starting to have new questions crop up, and they're all disparate enough that I figured I'd do a catch-all thread for the answers. Also I just got a new bike (2009 Surly LHT, hasn't been ridden yet) and want to start off on the right foot with it. Thanks guys!

#1. So I commute to work here in Tucson, AZ. I commute every day rain or shine because I got rid of my car to go bike-only (Tucson is pretty car friendly)

I have no problem riding in the heavy rain (In fact I enjoy it, cools things down quite a bit, and I shower when I get to work) but the rains here are monsoon rains, and the streets flood. Badly. I'm worried that much rain will destroy my bike. When riding, I sometimes have to go through DEEP puddles (they get up to my hubs). I've heard this will destroy the bottom bracket and hubs pretty much guaranteed, is this true? Also a concern is that the bike can't be brought inside while it's at work, so it might be sitting outside for some of these storms. It doesn't rain all day, it just pours for about an hour or so every day.

#2. I just got a new Brooks saddle, I haven't put it on yet. I got Proofide for it and I'm going to pretty much just follow Brooks' instructions on how to break it in. My question is for the rain and sun. I have the Brooks cover for it, but I'm not sure it's 100% waterproof. I can't bring my bike inside when I leave it at work, so I have 2 concerns. Is the saddle cover going to protect it from the HOT sun, and will it protect it from the occasional rainstorm that happens while it sits out there?

Actually those are the big two I can think of right now.

njkayaker

You can't ride around these swimming pools? (I'd avoid immersing bearings.) At least cup-and-cone hubs are easy to service (and it looks like you'll get lots of practice). It seems that most bottom bracket bearings are cartridge (and harder to do simple grease repacking on).

Maybe, you can get a nylon cover to clip around the bicycle while you are at work. There is also no reason you can't use a more substantial bag around your saddle.

4000Miles

I can't give a good answer for #1, but a rain cover should keep your saddle in fine shape. You need to protect it, but it's made of leather, not sugar.

kayakdiver

I would think a beater would be a better choice for the above mentioned commute. Save the Surly for the weekends. Is it an option using a different bike? I ride my touring bike in all kinds of weather but.................... I don't submerge the hubs or bottom bracket. If I was on a tour and had to do it.... well then I would.

Machka 

#1. You can get a plastic bicycle cover. I have one ... check your local hardware and bicycle shops.

#2. That's what plastic grocery bags are for. Always keep a plastic grocery bag tucked in the rails under your saddle, and use it when you have to leave the bicycle parked outside.

jimblairo

Going thru deep puddles will also allow water into your rims. I would not leave a Brooks saddle on a bike in a public place. Get a Salsa seat post binder and take the post and seat into work with you.

Doug64

IMO- You should ride the Brooks as much as you can before the trip. I use a plastic shower caps as seat covers, but translucent plastic act like a greenhouse. I don't usually leave them on for extended periods or when it is really sunny. The heat can really build up inside. I'm not sure, but this might help during the breakin period. Anyway, it is something to think about.

I usually repack my wheels before any major tour using Phil Woods waterproof grease. Like njkayaker said, "At least cup-and-cone hubs are easy to service (and it looks like you'll get lots of practice)"

Dellphinus

I use a quick release collar for the saddle, and bring it inside when raining.

staehpj1

I am not sure what those questions have to do with the title of your post (More general cross-country tour questions), but...

I'd be inclined to ride a beater on the days where hubs might be submerged, but If you have cup and cone bearings you can just repack them more frequently. Personally I tend to think that cartridge bearings are not all they are cracked up to be and miss cup and cone bottom brackets. It is nice to be able to inspect and repack bearings.

Cyclebum

Ride a beater to work during the monsoon season. Use the Brooks but bring inside. I'd bet it would get wet from condensation likely inside a plastic cover heated by the sun after a rain storm.

The Smokester

I'm not sure if the Complete LHT's are treated with "frame saver", but maybe you should consider it. This is special gunk which is poured inside the frame and swirled around (before the frame is build up with components) which protects the unprotected surfaces from rusting.

tarwheel 

1) Avoid riding through puddles. Water can get in your bearings or you might hit a submerged pothole.
2) If you get caught riding in heavy rain, remove your seatpost after you get home and then turn your bike upside down to make sure that any water drains out. I would go ahead and do that now with your bike since it sounds like you've been riding in the rain a lot. If you don't do this, water will accumulate at the bottom of your seat tube and ruin your bottom bracket.
3) Keep a plastic grocery bag stuffed between the rails on your Brooks saddle so you can cover it when it rains. Use Proofide on the top and bottom of your Brooks. Rain won't hurt the Brooks if you take care of it. After all, they are made in England and it rains a lot over there.
4) Keep riding your LHT to work. It's not made of China. If a LHT couldn't handle commuting, it certainly couldn't handle touring. No need to baby it. The LHT is a very sturdy bike designed to handle a lot of abuse. Just make sure you drain the water from the seat post if you're caught in the rain.

Steve.D

#1 - Install fenders with long mud flaps. The mud flap on the front wheel will keep water from splashing on the bottom bracket and your feet. Of course, that won't help if you ride through a puddle deeper than your bottom bracket.

#2 - Here in the Northwest, it rains so often that I would never leave my bike sitting outside all day, day after day. I've been fortunate enough to be able to lock my bike in a parking garage. Some people find an overhanging roof eave or canopy to lock their bikes.

stevage

Just wondering how much of this advice about water and bearings is based on first hand experience? I've immersed the hubs and bb of my current and previous bike (because I didn't know better) and nothing bad has happened so far, but who knows. I know theoretically it's bad...but have people actually seen rust from this kind of thing?

n4zou

Go to your local automotive parts store and purchase a tub of marine grade wheel bearing grease.
Here is an example of what to look for.

This type of grease is designed for use with boat trailers where the wheels are submerged when putting the boat in or taking it out of the water. Using this grease in your bike hubs and bottom bracket will allow you to flood your hubs with water without harm.

staehpj1

Boat trailer grease is good stuff, but I would still recommend fairly frequent maintenance on hubs that were often submerged.

kayakdiver

Well in my experience even with boat/marine grease I would still get damage on the boat trailer. It's all about the seals on a boat axle bearing combination.

Good grease helps.... The only way to keep water out is to not submerge or have seals that don't allow water in.

Boat trailers that have a lot of salt water submersion use bearing setup with a spring and extra space. Like the Bearing Buddy. The hub is filled and the spring forces itself toward the hub. Keeping it free of voids. You don't have this on a bike.

Don't submerge your hubs and bottom bracket. Just not a good idea. If I have to do it I'm going to take my stuff apart and inspect.