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Old 09-19-09, 05:23 PM   #1
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LHT Suggestions

Just purchased a new 52 cm LHT and was wondering what other owners might suggest as issues or upgrades.
I have a Brooks saddle, Jandd Expedition racks, pedals, fenders, lights, computer, mirror, Ortlieb classic roller panniers, Armidillo tires and a handlebar bag that I will be putting on it. The LBS is going to re-tension the wheels for me. What are your experiences with the LHT and are there any things I might learn from you.....
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The tyres that came on mine didn't last that long (~2000km) before I started getting lots of punctures, but they weren't the Armadillos. I now have Matathon Plus ATBs and they've given me ~4000kms of puncture-free happy-travelling.

I needed a new front wheel, 'cause I stacked. No damage whatsoever to the forks, despite totally destroying the wheel rim.

That's the only thing I can think of to mention. It's a great bike.

Have fun, A.
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Sounds like you are ready to go. The only think I can think is to get a generator hub and light, but that's not really necessary unless you ride at night regularly ( I do). Go tour!
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Good choice for a touring bike.

What size tires do you have on it?
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Good choice for a touring bike.

What size tires do you have on it?
Haven't installed yet but have 1.95 Armadillo Hemisphere tires..kind of wide but wanted to see how they would work after an unplanned off shoulder excursion last summer.....
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Enjoy it and report back if you have time.
I finished a cross country ride with a group. NY to LA
Six of the riders had LHT. They had very few if any problems with their bikes.
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The first LHT I had was a complete stock build bike but for the second time around I built one up from scratch putting the components I wanted on it. Here's a list of my favourites:

THREE TOP CHANGES
+Paul Tour cantis: much much MUCH (OMG they're sooo much better) better than the crap Tektro Oryx ones which will scare the crap our of you the first time you try to stop with a full load.
+Nitto Randonneur bars: Very comfy for long rides and a perfect spread of the drops
+24 tooth inner chainring: Awesome granny gear for very hilly islands (like where I live). Stock comes with a 26t

MORE CHANGES I LIKE A LOT (:
+Thomson stem and seatpost: lightweight and shiny purdy!
+Brooks B17 Special Ti: super lightweight for a Brooks (or any saddle for that matter)
+Schmidt SON 28 dynamo hub: let there be serious light (batteries not included or needed)!
+Chris King headset: oooo shiny purdy! And will last (almost) forever!

THINGS I KEPT FROM THE OLD LHT
+Sugino cranks: love em!
+Shimano XT rear derailleur: flawless
+Alex Adventurer rims w/XT rear hub: had to get another one for the Schmidt
+Shimano barend shifters: I love these and in combination with the stock drivetrain are flawless!
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THREE TOP CHANGES
+Paul Tour cantis: much much MUCH (OMG they're sooo much better) better than the crap Tektro Oryx ones which will scare the crap our of you the first time you try to stop with a full load.
+Nitto Randonneur bars: Very comfy for long rides and a perfect spread of the drops
+24 tooth inner chainring: Awesome granny gear for very hilly islands (like where I live). Stock comes with a 26t
+1, I switched the Tekro brakes with V-brakes,which meant new levers also, so much better though. I have a Son hub anda light mounted on the fork crown.
I had an old/new XT 180mm crankset with a 24t ,I could use a smaller granny though.

The only down side I have noticed is the bottom bracket is to low, I hit the pedals more than I would like. I use BMX platform pedals and my toes hit my fenders with 622 tire sizes.

Cool ride for the price.
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I also did the 24-tooth chainring. It's not bad to have low gears and not use them much, but can be really bad to not have them when you need them. With the 24-tooth granny I used my lowest gear, but never felt as if I needed one lower.
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The Armadillos will wear out soon enough. Replace them with Schwalbe Marathon XR's. The Supreme flats and wears out too quickly and the Plus is too heavy.
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Thanks, great info!!
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+1, I switched the Tekro brakes with V-brakes,which meant new levers also, so much better though. I have a Son hub anda light mounted on the fork crown.
I had an old/new XT 180mm crankset with a 24t ,I could use a smaller granny though.

The only down side I have noticed is the bottom bracket is to low, I hit the pedals more than I would like. I use BMX platform pedals and my toes hit my fenders with 622 tire sizes.

Cool ride for the price.
I noticed the low bottom bracket too. On my first ride with it I almost launched myself off it smashing the pedal into the road around the first quick bend. I've since put very short cranks on which help.

I also have a SON&BuMM lights and it is just SO convenient. Wonderful!

My stock Oryx cantis seem fine to me - perhaps I've never ridden a bike with really great brakes so I just don't know what I'm missing. There also aren't any _real_ hills around here. I have replaced the stock pads which wore out pretty quickly, not sure on what the new ones are, they squeal horribly but work.
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gomadtroll and aggrl1, good info about the bb being low, I'll watch out and see how I do.

aggrl1, one of these days I may bring my new LHT to Oz, I visited Brisbane several years ago and promised myself an extended stay..what an amazing country and wonderful people!!
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I went through both wheels to tighten & true up; spoke tension out of the box was quite low. That's the first thing I'd do and you've got that covered. Next I'd put Kool Stop pads on.

I'm glad I put a Champion Flyer on right away (the OEM saddle is still wrapped in plastic in my parts box). SKS full fenders, Tubus racks, Ortlieb bags, Kool Stops, a bunch of Planet Bike lights (8!), Topeak stainless cages & Road Morph pump, a Lizard Skin chainstay protector and a larger one to protect top tube from the bar ends, some old SPD pedals I had laying around - all good.

Eventually I'll get a bar where the tops & the drops are parallel, and a Pitlock skewer set, and install a smaller chain ring I have around here somewhere. The Kalloy stem & post are very serviceable and the Conti tires have been fine - no flats.

I also got a BFRT (large rack trunk) at Performance for when I want to go "Light & fast" (yeah, right ... )
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Big Crane bell. Has a longer ring than the smaller ones.

http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/s...-13182-reviews
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Most touring bikes could do with racks, a rear light, bottle cages, pump and a computer. After that, you're ready to ride. Before a major trip, you might want to start with new tires and chain and fresh batteries in your light and computer. And if you have a lot of miles, you should consider a new cassette and brake pads.

I wouldn't bother updating the saddle, bars or rings unless you find the stock ones don't work for you.
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Surly LHT 52cm

You got your self one fine bike I have the same one and it is the 52cm as well. The only thing I would change is the brake pads Kool Stops is what I have on mine.What color did you get your LHT in?
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I know this is sacrilegious to many on these forums, because it's often synonymous with "cheap bike," but I got an adjustable stem for mine. I really don't hold to the notion of there being "one perfect position" that you are going to want to stay in forever after you get it all "dialed in," especially for a bike you'll be on for many hours, day after day. If my back is sore one day, I go more upright, if I want a more aero posture, I can do that. Options.
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I forgot my favourite favourite addition, my Woody fenders:

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Slice2, had not thought of the top tube and bar ends contacting, will check it out..
LeeG, like the bell, thanks....
KDC1956, mine is a Truckaccino...
KrisPistofferson, have an adjustable and was thinking the same thing...
twodeadpoets, Love those fenders, are those bars Randonneurs?

I'll be adding Kool Stops when the standard pads wear out and may upgrade to v-brakes if I hit the western Rockies next year...
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Yep, Nitto Randonneurs
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Just had to share...

Picked up my Blue LHT last week (size:54), and I cannot stop smiling while riding or even just looking at it! I was lucky (so it seems) to score the blue colour ('08 or older frame colour). Got my LBS to build up the bike with the following components:

Cranks: Sugino, 46x36x26, UN54 Shimano BB
Wheels: Velocity Arrowheat, 32F, 36R w/Shimano XT hubs
Derailleurs: F: Tiagra triple, R: Shimano XT
Shifters: DT power ratchet shifters - friction
Brakes: Tektro 720s, w/Tektro levers
Racks: Tubus, F: Ergo, R: Cargo
Handlebar: Nitto Rando
Headset: Crane Creek S-8
Saddle: Brooks 17
Pedals: MKS Touring Light
Tires: Marathon XRs 26x2.0
Panniers: Arkel XM-28s and XM-42s

I love how this bike rides, smooth and stable. It is definitely not a light bike, but once you get rolling, its is just a delight. The XRs swallow up the road and gravel with such ease.

Maiden voyage home from the LBS quickly reminded that the MKS pedals are on the wide side - grounded out a little chunk - thank fully stayed upright.

Initially I specked out the Tubus Tara rack, however, for some reason the version that the LBS got in did not have a hole to install a tab to secure panniers with rear hooks - so Ergo it was for no extra charge!

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I put Paul brakes on my touring bike and they messed it up. It's really adjustment, fork and brake geometry, and then quality parts. Cheap brakes are normally fine. I'm still using the Paul brakes, but any brake with similar angles is likely fine.
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@Peterpan1, Which Pauls are you using, the Paul Neo Retros or the Paul Tours? I've heard some people having trouble with the Neo Retros but I love the Tours.
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