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    Touring on a track frame?

    So I have lashed a rack to my 90's Fuji Track with a 40/16 ratio and front and rear brakes. I will be making panniers for the rear end and a small handlebar bag / fanny pack. I have 700x23c Maxxis Detonator tires. SPD pedals are shot so normal shoes in clips and straps. This is a steel frame and although the riding position is uncomfortable, I will be able to ride fast enough to make the trip much shorter. I plan on riding from Savannah, Georgia to Richmond, Virginia to get home for the winter. Am I making a mistake? If you know any good fixed gear touring info please fill me in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregw View Post
    elaborate please... i do better with actual criticism
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    Quote Originally Posted by openmindedgent View Post
    I will be able to ride fast enough to make the trip much shorter.

    No you won't. Not that you can't ride faster, but it won't be any fun. Expect to average 10mph. Drop your gearing and take your time to enjoy the ride.
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    I should also add that I have already been doing a lot of "macgyver touring" and I am fully aware of the "correct" way to tour. (1,500 touring miles under my belt so far)

    I just don't really like sticking to the rules.... personally, I feel that they get in the way of adventure and true living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_m_shooter View Post
    No you won't. Not that you can't ride faster, but it won't be any fun. Expect to average 10mph. Drop your gearing and take your time to enjoy the ride.
    This is more of an (excuse to travel) kind of a trip. I need to be getting home so I, of course, am going to ride my bike. I am not looking to have fun, at least not enough to justify averaging 10mph. I will save 10mph for my next fully loaded tour, thanks.
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    > Am I making a mistake?

    Yes, but you knew that before you put the rack on it. You're going out on a limb, it will be uncomfortable, and you will have a memorable experience. What more can we tell you? Touring on a fixie is not unknown. People even do the Paris-Brest-Paris that way.

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    So please don't give me useless info like, "you are going to be miserable" or "get gears"...

    I am smart and I know what I am getting into, I just want to hear from others who have toured on a fixed gear to give me some riding advice or gear info or to let me know that a 40/16 fixed ratio is reasonable. I am not about to go searching for the info i need so I was just hoping somebody would have some good info for me on here. Thanks all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevage View Post
    > Am I making a mistake?

    Yes, but you knew that before you put the rack on it. You're going out on a limb, it will be uncomfortable, and you will have a memorable experience. What more can we tell you? Touring on a fixie is not unknown. People even do the Paris-Brest-Paris that way.
    There we go... got any good fixed touring literature or websites devoted to this?
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    The only experience I have to add is doing a century on a Track bike. By the end of 100 miles, I was very ready to get off. I can't imagine repeating that again for 5-6 days in a row.

    There are better tools for long distance riding.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    There are better tools for long distance riding.
    I am fully aware... It is just a pity I cannot afford these things (at least not in the immediate future)
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    Why not just buy a used Sturmey Archer 3 speed hub off Ebay and have a wheel built. At least you'll have one low gear.

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    Oh, by the way, I should have mentioned that, for work, I currently ride over 30 miles a day. On this track bike. My body does not hate me... yoga helps. I could easily double that and feel just fine.

    My main concern is important... WILL I CRACK MY FRAME!? This is what poor men think about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    Why not just buy a used Sturmey Archer 3 speed hub off Ebay and have a wheel built. At least you'll have one low gear.
    sounds great if you have extra time and cash to spare... thanks though
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    I don't really know why you're asking here, you clearly know what you're doing, and have made your decision. Will you crack your frame? Yes. No. We have no idea how much weight you're carrying. You said it's a steel frame though, so I'll go with "no". Unless you hit something.

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    Maybe there is not a whole lot of people riding loaded track bikes long distances to give you advice? Could be wrong. I know going up hills in VA with a loaded fixed bike would not be for me. You have the best advice so far. "This is a steel frame and although the riding position is uncomfortable,"

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    you're young, you'll be fine.

    Having toured and rando'd a bit fixed (in mostly-flat Britain though) I would give you some advice:

    Do not leg brake. your knees will quit before you want to...

    lower your gearing. plan to go slow and steady. You will have one optimal speed for the cadence you like- you can calculate this. Shoot for 10-12 mph I'd guess.... 40-16 might be good, I dunno, you know better than I do what is comfortable. But plan for lower than usual gearing on account of the load.

    Slow and steady is the name of the game. fixed distance rides are actually really nice because they force you to go evenly the whole time. Don't try to push it.

    light as you can.... this is even more important on fixed hills...

    stretch well, and do some knee-strengthening stuff like sitting on a chair and lifting your legs...

    The fixed-wheel bit is actually much less of a problem than the track bike geometry bit. If you can hang your wheels etc on a road frame you will be much happier... just a thought, in case you know someone to trade with for the holidays or something

    Id go with actual bullhorns over drops or flat bars. The drops will be too dropped to be useful anyway, and the bullhorns will help you stretch out. I like profile airwing type ones not necesariily that brand, just that shape...

    on that note, borrow a riser dirt drop style or technomic stem if you can. Try to lift the cockpit


    anyway, thats my advice take it or leave it. sounds fun (kinda) and im jealous (sorta)

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    Quote Originally Posted by openmindedgent View Post
    I should also add that I have already been doing a lot of "macgyver touring" and I am fully aware of the "correct" way to tour. (1,500 touring miles under my belt so far)

    I just don't really like sticking to the rules.... personally, I feel that they get in the way of adventure and true living.
    If that's the case, why stop halfway? Remove the left crank arm and pedal to Virginia one-legged. Or would that be too much adventure and true living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyzzy834 View Post
    If that's the case, why stop halfway? Remove the left crank arm and pedal to Virginia one-legged. Or would that be too much adventure and true living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by positron View Post
    Do not leg brake. your knees will quit before you want to...
    Yeah, you better attach a front brake. Your knees are much more expensive to fix than a full blown touring bike. When the hills come, just walk the bike up.

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    Pack light, flip your drop bars up, do 75 miles per day, you'll be there in less than a week.

    Personally I'd knock that ratio down a bit, but you'll make it.

    BTW: What color are the tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    Yeah, you better attach a front brake.
    He said he has two brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
    Pack light, do 75 miles per day, you'll be there in less than a week.

    Personally I'd knock that ratio down a bit, but you'll make it.

    BTW: What color are the tires?
    The OP will be ok, he has brakes and 40/16 is a good all day gear. If it gets too steep just push. Here is a blog of a fixed tour through Europe

    http://pompinos.blogspot.com/

    and here's my recent tour on a Quickbeam mostly on 40/16 freewheel.

    http://wheelsofchance.org/england-2009/

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    buy a freewheel, maybe 18 or bigger, just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by positron View Post
    you're young, you'll be fine.

    Do not leg brake. your knees will quit before you want to... smart

    stretch well, and do some knee-strengthening stuff like sitting on a chair and lifting your legs... smart

    Id go with actual bullhorns over drops or flat bars. got em

    on that note, borrow a riser dirt drop style or technomic stem if you can. got oneTry to lift the cockpit


    anyway, thats my advice take it or leave it. sounds fun (kinda) and im jealous (sorta)
    Thank you, this is the advice I am looking for.
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