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Old 09-25-09, 12:05 PM   #1
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Sugino 600 vs. Sugino 350 cranksets

I'm planning to buy a Windsor Tourist in the next couple months and I will need to swap out the crankset before I can do any loaded touring. Lots of people tour with the Sugino XD-600, but is there anyone with touring experience on the XD-350?

I know that the two inner rings on a XD-350 are steel, whereas all three rings are aluminum on the XD-600. It the 40 gram weight loss the only reason for the $25 price difference between the two? Any difference as far as longevity? I would think the cheaper steel rings on the XD-350 would actually hold up longer.

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Old 09-26-09, 04:05 AM   #2
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I don`t recognize the 350 model name, but Sugino had at least one other crankset (XD-400?) that was the same arms as the 600, but with steel rings rather than alloy. Since I hardly ever see that other crankset advertized any more, I imagine they just changed the name and now it`s the XD-350. Worth $25 for the difference? Depends on you, I`d say. It isn`t all that much of a difference in price, or in weight. And yes, steel rings hold up longer than aluminum rings. I had a steel 24t ring drop into my hands and when I eventually wear out the alloy one that came with the crankset I`ll probably put the steel one on. For the bigger rings, I don`t ever wear them out anyway. Same story on my mtb- got tired of replacing the little ring, so I went with a steel one and the big old 32t (biggest ring on my mtb) has been on there since the bike was new in 2002. While you`re shopping around for cranks, keep an eye on what rings come with it. I`ve noticed tht the XD-600 sets don`t always come with the same tooth counts, so if you have a preference, you might be able to get the gearing you want from another vendor without having to buy another ring. The 350 might be sold in different configurations too.
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I'd rather have steel rings for the grannies.
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Sugino does have an XD-350 ...http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...7abdc4bb1c383b

Let's be clear here...... Good stainless steel rings may last longer than Al ones.... but I don't think you're getting good stainless steel rings for a $70 crank. .... it just says "steel". How will the rings last? Who knows. How much does it really matter? We're talking $25 difference! It's not enough to even worry about. Pick either or and you'll be fine.

Hey ... if you really want to go low .... just get the XD-300 with all steel rings for $49. http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Crankset.aspx
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Thanks for all the feedback. I'll probably go with the XD-350.

Garthr, I saw those cheap cranksets at JensonUSA, but there aren't any in stock. I'm pretty sure that it's a discontinued product that they never got around to erasing from their website inventory.
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Sugino does have an XD-350 ...http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...7abdc4bb1c383b

Let's be clear here...... Good stainless steel rings may last longer than Al ones.... but I don't think you're getting good stainless steel rings for a $70 crank. .... it just says "steel". How will the rings last? Who knows.
lets be clear here...... any cheap, stamped steel is MUCH stronger than any aluminum. Just ask Surly (zing!)

Furthermore, there is no reason to get steel big rings, because the large drivetrain components take a much longer time to wear out.

so, for less money, you will be getting a longer lasting product (tourers wet-dream right there). these sugino cranks, (either of them) are up there with the tektro drop bar levers: Simple, great, and cheap.
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Just an idea: Why not consider the Sugino DX 500 mtn bike crankset, 44/32/22. It might require a shorter bottom bracket spindle (110mm to 103mm), but you gain a lot of hill climbing abilty. I went from the 48/36/28 on my Bianchi Volpe to the DX 500 and it is great. I spin out at about 24-26 mph which is about as fast as I want to pedal on a loaded touring bike anyway (I only do that going downhill). For the additional price ($20-$25) of a BB, you get more "user friendly" gears.
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I also am a fan of MTB cranksets. In the mountains the 32 ring works well for me on extended climbs and the 44 ring is plenty on the flats and DH's. The 22 is the bail out, bit off more than you can chew into a headwind gear. The 22 is silly low but its good to know that if there is traction to be had, I can climb almost any road loaded. Spinning your legs off at 3 or 3.5 mph is way better then pushing a 60 pound bike up a never ending gravel road.

If you are planning to spend more time in the flatlands then it may not make as much sense.
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