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Old 10-20-09, 10:16 AM   #1
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Newbies' delicate question

Newbies to touring, though we have many years of cycling. Wife and I are planning our first tour, on our tandem. We have a bit of an odd question. What do the distaff side of hetero couples do the morning "after?" Do you schedule it for a day before a rest day? (Bummer!) Will her, uh, personal discomfort go away after an hour in the saddle? She is normally very comfortable with her Jett saddle, which has perhaps the largest cutout there is. We have noticed that this might be an issue and wonder how other folks deal with it. Is this comprehensible, or should I just get more medical about it and stop futzing around?
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Old 10-20-09, 11:33 AM   #2
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I have no idea what you're asking.
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Old 10-20-09, 11:39 AM   #3
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1st: +3 points for use of "distaff"
2nd: It'll probably go away.
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Old 10-20-09, 11:53 AM   #4
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Uh . . .
Family website and all that . . .
If we make love of an evening, on the next day, stoker's girly bits are uncomfortable on the saddle even in the afternoon. Hence we have not tried riding the next day at all.

This is in the category of relieving stoker trepidation about touring. We do 10-day backpacks, so we are comfortable with that sort of thing. She's also comfortable with my captaining and trusts my judgement. We've been riding tandem for a couple of years. Continuing trepidations:

1) Doing a long ride (for her) every day. We have started training and have a good plan. Our tour is not until about this time next year, so we have plenty of time to build mileage.
2) Doing a long ride the day "after." Very much does not want touring to cramp her style. So that's what I'm up to - trying to discover the experiences of others in this regard, either to reassure her or to modify the touring schedule to something she'll be more comfortable with.

I'm hoping that couples will tell me that it goes away after an hour, not that they just don't do it!
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Well, being 52, I seldom "do it." And when I do, I am not gifted enough to cause anyone discomfort the next day.
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^ Hahaha

I'd be so psyched to get my wife just to ride a bike that doing it in the tent while on tour would never cross my mind!
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I can't believe the question: a choice between bicycling and sex? The answer is obvious.
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i am not gifted enough to cause anyone discomfort the next day.
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Old 10-20-09, 02:15 PM   #9
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Supported tour, folks. Think old world pensions with down duvets. I dunno, Seeker. We like them both, hence the problem: as usual, we want it all.
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Practice in advance. Then see if she can ride the hundred on the next day. I think that you should practice every Friday evening and ride on Saturday until she can cover the distance. That may mean a lot of practicing.
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I think I understand where your name "Carbonfiberboy" comes from. Must be an awful cross to bear.
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Sorry that the kids here aren't giving you any sort of real answer. I'll PM you a response.
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I'm with 10Wheels, although prefer other products. Like Dr. Ruth says, "Always use lubrication"
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Sex and the Saddle

Really? .. Really?

As a woman who has sex as often as possible and also bikes as often as possible (Brooks saddle, minimum 14 mile a day commute even without extracurricular events), I've had my share of woes, but certainly not that regularly. I hate to say it, but my initial reaction is 'Dude, ur doin it rong.' But I'm sure that if she is enjoying it at the time, that's probably not the case. I'd give a bunch of different preventative advice here. The petroleum jelly wasn't a bad idea, but of course that's not the product to use. You want something like Wet , they have a huge array of different lubes perfect for whatever your needs are, depending on if she's sensitive to certain things, if you use condoms or if you're regularly silicone toys. Also, she'll want to hose off the love juices immediately afterwards, because since your fluids have a different PH value than hers, prolonged exposure can cause irritation and swelling. I recommend bringing baby wipes. Last but not least, the crappy thing about prolonged riding plus the vagina is that it can create the perfect stuffy, hot, moist environment for yeast to flourish. This may not be noticeable regularly, but get a little friction up in there and boy howdy will you feel their presence. I recommend yeastgard, available at any CVS - it's a homeopathic product designed to balance out the internal ecosystem by introducing more of the yeast predators to the area - just pop one in after sex or on any night she's feeling a bit rough, and everything will be fine in the jungle in the morning.

All of this is tertiary to correct posture and having the right seat, but you guys know that stuff already. I am absolutely positive that cycling and sex are not exclusive pastimes. Please let us know how it turns out!
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Sorry that the kids here aren't giving you any sort of real answer.
Hey, maybe a poor choice of words but could we make this a sticky ?
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This is the best thread ever...
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Well, we don't think we're doing it rong. Even though we were damn good when we started, based on our 36 year trend line, we are confident we can still get better at it. As someone said, we just need to practice more. We normally go out on the tandem after work, and even on our days off we go out in the afternoon. So we need to experiment more and go out in the morning on our days off to simulate the touring environment. That's our takeaway.

Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions!
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I was wondering how long of a tour you were considering.

If it's a short tour of just a week or two, then perhaps an "oral" treatment regime for the underlying problem -- applied on as needed basis to both the distaff and his staff -- might suffice as a temporary measure.
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Sorry that the kids here aren't giving you any sort of real answer. I'll PM you a response.
What other sorts of responses, I wonder, could the OP possibly have expected? Uhhh -- oh, I see, these questions should be taken seriously! Whatever; certainly gives new meaning to the expression "bike porn", and of course we shall all be awaiting anxiously the extended tour journal
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Well, we don't think we're doing it rong....
Well, I don't know what, but I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong. Where, how, when, I hesitate to speculate (but it's not just your spelling).
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Well if more lube (not on the chain) doesn't solve the problem, then you could try upgrading the tandem to a RANS screamer. Eliminate that whole pesky "saddle" problem.

Tanya, happy 'bent rider.
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Well if more lube (not on the chain) doesn't solve the problem, then you could try upgrading the tandem to a RANS screamer. Eliminate that whole pesky "saddle" problem.

Tanya, happy 'bent rider.
Well, there are other options. My wife and I ride a vintage Counterpoint Opus II:


Similar bikes are still on the market, such as:
the Bilenky Viewpoint.
and the Hase Pino.
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What other sorts of responses, I wonder, could the OP possibly have expected? Uhhh -- oh, I see, these questions should be taken seriously! Whatever; certainly gives new meaning to the expression "bike porn", and of course we shall all be awaiting anxiously the extended tour journal
This is no different than any other BF thread. Some people are experienced enough to understand the question, others just post anyway. It's all OK. I think we have garnered enough public and private responses to create a good action plan going forward. I may or may not start another thread next year with results. Give you something to look forward to this winter. Meanwhile, stoker and I have found a producer for future films.
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