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Old 10-30-09, 07:50 PM   #1
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Tubus Cargo vs. Surly Nice Rack

I've searched the touring forums and read all I could about these two racks and seem to come up with the same conclusion: people choose the Tubus over the Surly most all of the time.

Is there any situation where the Surly would be a better option?

I'm building up a LHT for two years of touring on pavement, gravel, dirt, etc. and want to know if there is anyone who can legitimately argue for the Surly over the Tubus.

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Old 10-30-09, 08:53 PM   #2
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Is there any situation where the Surly would be a better option?
The struts camber inward on a tubus cargo and won't fit over a surly pugsley's 4" wide tires. The nice rack has only perpendicular struts and so fits those tires just fine.



But the cargo fits pretty much any tires <3".
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I love the surly nice front rack, the rear is so so. For a rear I like the madison summit rack.
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The Cargo is just over a pound and will carry as much as you'd ever want to. the Surly is two and a half pounds. The Surly is overkill.
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I bought the nice rack, front and rear, but just didn't like the look. Sold them on ebay and bought the Cosmo and the nova in stainless steel. They weren't cheaper, but they were lighter and I like them better.
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The Cargo is just over a pound and will carry as much as you'd ever want to. the Surly is two and a half pounds. The Surly is overkill.
+1 on the specs alone. I haven't used the Surly rear rack, but I do have the front rack...and I don't use it anymore partly because of the weight. The Tubus Cargo is a great rack, very stiff and reasonably light weight (I have one on my commuter bike).

Given that the Tubus has a longer track record in global use, and in view of your 2-year plans of multi-terrain touring, it might be a good idea to stick with the tried-and-true performer. (I recall hearing once that Tubus will send you a replacement rack to your location if yours happens to break while on tour. Thankfully, I have not needed to make use of their warranty service. Surly's either, for that matter.)

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Get the Tubus, hands down. It is very strong and much lighter than the Surly. Why would you want to carry all of that extra weight?
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It's not totally applicable to your situation, but I have a Tubus Tara front rack, and now wish I had got the Surly (or another rack that has a platform on front). It might be user error, but some of the bolts kept coming loose on my Tubus Tara while the Old Man Mountain rack I have on the rear hasn't given me any trouble.
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It's not totally applicable to your situation, but I have a Tubus Tara front rack, and now wish I had got the Surly (or another rack that has a platform on front). It might be user error, but some of the bolts kept coming loose on my Tubus Tara while the Old Man Mountain rack I have on the rear hasn't given me any trouble.
Which Old Man Mountain rear rack do you have? I have been going back in forth between getting the OMM Red Rock and the Jandd Expedition.
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I got the Red Rock. I couldn't be happier with it. I've never used a Jandd though.
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if you're not using excessively fat tires like the Endomorph 3.9" (i might have remember the size wrongly), you might want to consider the LOCC instead. carries an abus u-lock with an inbuilt adapter, and has two rail heights for carrying your panniers. i can verify for you when i have the time, the estimated size of tire it can accomodate... i'm just praying you're not using the pugsley!
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The struts camber inward on a tubus cargo and won't fit over a surly pugsley's 4" wide tires.
But if you're not running 4" tires, a bit of angle on rack struts is very beneficial as it gives much greater side-to-side stability.
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tubus is a much better design. lighter, stronger, I have the logo/duo, and I love them. I do wish tubus made a front platform rack, but its not really neccessary. I use a nitto M12 rack with the duo, and that works well, just a bit more $.

aside from cost, whats not to like?
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