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    Front Rack - Which

    I've visited a half dozen bicycle shops around here, and none of them carry front racks. When we look up front racks on the computer, it seems that two choices from Jandd keep popping up, the "low" rack and the "extreme" rack.

    The "low" rack:
    http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FRLOW

    The "extreme" rack:
    http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXT

    It seems to me that the "extreme" rack would be worth it. It's $28 more expensive and 11 oz. heavier, but it gives you that added, flat shelf on top for the times when you feel like strapping something down up there, whether it's a permanent load or just a six-pack. However, I wanted to check and make sure there's no other disadvantage I haven't thought of.

    Other than the added $28 and 11 oz. in weight, is there any reason to not go with the extreme rack? Thanks in advance to any opinions.

    PS: Can you say the title of this post three times fast??
    Front Rack Which
    Front Wack Wich
    Fwront Rack Rich
    ...I can't.

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    only negative I could think of is that the rack is heavy. I wish Blackburn would come back with their old front rack. Anyway I've just installed the Jandd extreme on the front of my LHT.

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    As long as you can still mount your panniers low, I see no reason not to go for the extreme, other than the extra weight. I'm a big believer in balancing the load and a six pack would just about do it.
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    Other (high quality) choices would include Tubus and Old Man Mountain...both pretty highly respected brands and considered well made/durable. If Tubus interests you contact Wayne at The Touring Store.com- he's a prince of a guy and knowledgeable on racks and panniers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobframe View Post
    Other (high quality) choices would include Tubus and Old Man Mountain...both pretty highly respected brands and considered well made/durable. If Tubus interests you contact Wayne at The Touring Store.com- he's a prince of a guy and knowledgeable on racks and panniers.
    This one is likely my next front rack - if I find I need one. http://www.bikebagshop.com/racktime-...ck-p-1614.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    I wish Blackburn would come back with their old front rack.
    They have

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    gotta have a platform!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    That is just the low riders, they used to make a rack similar to the Jandd.

    FWIW I have a BorYeu rack on my Giant Exursion and a Jandd Extreme on my Giant Iguana. I use the Excursion for on road touring and the Iguana is being set up for some fire trail touring. I prefer the full rack as long as I have the option to low mount my panniers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclotoine View Post
    nope, what they used to make besides the original low rider was a front platform rack that mounted on the dropout eyelets and mid fork eyelets. I had two of them and out of generosity gave them away to friends heading out on tours thinking I could always get another one.

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    Don't forget the Bruce Gordon Mountain Rack for up front. Twenty three years later still going strong for me.
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    Probably the only disadvantage is that the platform might tempt you to load up the front rack too much. A six-pack of cans weighs five pounds, and you'd probably rather carry a dense load such as that on your back rack or in a front pannier. I'd go light on a front platform.

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    Obviously there is more than one way to look at this, but 11 ounces is far from insignificant. 11 ounces here and 11 ounces there and pretty soon you are carrying 60-100 pounds of gear. If you really want/need to carry stuff there it might be worth it, but I don't personally find it that big of a plus and it therefore isn't worth the extra weight to me.

    It makes a difference what size frame you have, but for me the rack top isn't very useful for carrying other stuff if I am using a handlebar bag. That may be less the case for others since I am on a smallish frame and like the bars very low. I do use a tiny front platform rack from Nashbar, but I only use it as a way to carry my handlebar bag. Weight is is actually reduced in that case since it weighs slightly less than the mounting bracket it replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
    . I do use a tiny front platform rack from Nashbar, but I only use it as a way to carry my handlebar bag. Weight is is actually reduced in that case since it weighs slightly less than the mounting bracket it replaced.
    now that is a smart way of getting just the support you need for a bundle or bag attached to the handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    now that is a smart way of getting just the support you need for a bundle or bag attached to the handlebars.
    Yea, it works out really well for me. I use the shoulder strap to attach it to the bike. A couple wraps of the strap around the stem and clip it to the d rings on the bag. I had previously added some heavy duty stiffeners to the bag and was able to take them back out to save some weight with this arrangement.

    That said the little rack has a pretty tiny platform and wouldn't work out well if you wanted to put a lot of bulky stuff there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
    .

    That said the little rack has a pretty tiny platform and wouldn't work out well if you wanted to put a lot of bulky stuff there.
    the funny part about loading stuff is how fast the weight can go on. To securely carry 20lbs on the front through all kinds of stuff where front panniers won't smash on curbs and rocks it helps to bring the panniers up a bit higher, and as long as you're doing that have a platform for keeping items off the front wheel. So for 20lbs of stuff there's about 5lbs of rack and bags. Going with the mini rack and compression sack/handlebar bag you can carry 10-lbs between the bags and top of the fork with about a lb of support structure.

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    I've used a Tubus, Jandd Extreme, and Blackburn Low-Rider. The Blackburn was fine and cheap. I think it flexed a bit though - no scientific evidence of this, just a feeling I have. It was on a flimsy Nashbar Touring bike from 1992 - XXL frame, 1-inch tubing....can you say, "Whippy?"

    I put a Tubus on my LHT and liked it a lot. It was very solid, not too heavy, and the tube over the front made a great place to mount a headlight.

    But I decided I wanted to try a platform. I got a deal on the Jandd so I bought it. The platform made a great place to bungee a couple of things, and the rack held my paniiers rock-solidly. It's probably the heaviest of the three, but not by that much. Downside - the headlight wouldn't mount on the front like on the Tubus. Oh well, I don't ride at night on tour and don't carry the headlight anyway.


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    if you can wait, Blackburn is reintroducing the Mountain Front rack to the US market optimized for modern single eyelet forks for 2010.

    sure to be a strong contender against the Jannd Extreme front rack and a bit lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ploeg View Post
    A six-pack of cans weighs five pounds, and you'd probably rather carry a dense load such as that on your back rack or in a front pannier. I'd go light on a front platform.
    So, the light beer goes on the front platform??
    Great feedback folks, it's much appreciated. I do believe I'll get one with a platform of some sort. Great place to strap down a salmon, a bundle of firewood, or a box of wine (white on front, red on back, naturally).
    Last edited by Climer; 11-30-09 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by staehpj1 View Post
    I do use a tiny front platform rack from Nashbar, but I only use it as a way to carry my handlebar bag.
    Interesting looking product there, staehpj1. Do you happen to have a photo showing the rack on your bike, by any chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climer View Post
    Interesting looking product there, staehpj1. Do you happen to have a photo showing the rack on your bike, by any chance?
    Not a great picture, but you can kind of see it on the following page from my spring trip's journal:
    http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/p...=5W#pic_446918

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    Thanks, Pete. Your combo of low rack + handlebar rack is interesting, as opposed to the "extreme" Jandd I am looking at.
    Last edited by Climer; 11-30-09 at 05:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    That is just the low riders, they used to make a rack similar to the Jandd.

    FWIW I have a BorYeu rack on my Giant Exursion and a Jandd Extreme on my Giant Iguana. I use the Excursion for on road touring and the Iguana is being set up for some fire trail touring. I prefer the full rack as long as I have the option to low mount my panniers.

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    Ah, thanks for the education, I haven't been around long enough to know that... but a quick look at the photo tells me I can probably easily combine a traditional lowride with a basic front platform rack to mimic that set-up..

    I have a nagaoka rack that is similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    only negative I could think of is that the rack is heavy. I wish Blackburn would come back with their old front rack. Anyway I've just installed the Jandd extreme on the front of my LHT.
    Blackburn just brought it back - the one I was referring to above - to the US market. It has been consistently available in Europe but not available for distribution in the USA for quite a few years.

    It's available now, i had my hands on one today at the bike shop - $39.99

    The dealer book picture i saw of it, i thought it had been redesigned to work with modern forks with single fork end eyelets instead of the classic dual eyelet design, its not, its still the classic front mountain rack design-

    Its BACK the Blackburn MTN-F is BACK.


    I'm going to get a LHT fork for my Crosscheck so i can run it on the upper fork eyelets like it was designed to do.
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