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Old 05-26-10, 06:20 PM   #76
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So, for those of you who have completed your builds--what do you think of the bike?
I love mine. I've been using it for daily commuting for about 3 months and so far I have absolutely no complaints.

The frame geometry has worked out great for me. It was no problem getting the handlebars up an inch higher than the seat, right where I wanted them.

I'm really impressed with the toughness of the finish. Three months of getting locked to a city of Cambridge post and circle bike rack, usually with someone locking up to the other side, and I haven't found so much as a scratch.
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Old 05-27-10, 02:50 PM   #77
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Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 06/01/2010.

Finally!
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Old 05-31-10, 02:10 PM   #78
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Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 06/01/2010.

Finally!
So is the frame still on time? Looking forward to seeing your build.
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Love the looks of these bikes!
I'm considering putting together my first touring bike, and using the Saga as the base of it all!
I've got a couple of questions, though..
Is anyone using 40-hole rims & hubs? If so, which ones?
Being that I'm 6'7", and 270 pounds, I'd like to go with something with a little more beef under me, than a normal 36H.
Thanks for any pointers...
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Old 06-02-10, 01:37 AM   #81
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Sweet!
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my 56cm saga arrived today from outside outfitters. in the frame saving process now.
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Initial observations (bike is 90% built-up):

Brake boss spacing could be wider. With 24mm rims (Velocity Dyad) and Shimano (BR-R550) canti's, there isn't a lot of room at the fork/stays.

Tire clearance is OK. I'm running 36.5mm (actual) tires, and that's about the widest I'd feel comfortable with. The LHT has better clearance.

Seat binder area could benefit from some reinforcement or a separate clamp altogether. My seatpost slipped until I really honked down on the binder bolt.

Mounting 50mm fenders is going to require some trimming on the rear fender to clear both sets of stays.

BB threads were very clean, and overall alignment was good.

I'm running a Sugino XD2 triple with a 113mm BB, and could probably go down to a 110mm BB.
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Old 06-04-10, 02:24 PM   #84
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Odd that the tire clearance is so different between 700c and 26er frames. My 50cm easily cleared 2.4/60mm tires (fenders would have been a tight fit over them, but would have probably been possible if anyone made fenders big enough).

Looking forward to seeing some more built bikes.
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Prestige seat tube issue?

Hey Mark. Interested in your build; thinking something similar myself, though possibly with a flatter style bar -- mustache, Albatross or maybe a J-Bar.

I noticed that they've had issues with slipping posts on the B-Side frame as well. Wondering if perhaps they didn't design the clamp area properly with their Prestige built frames. Are you okay with the amount of torque you had to apply, or was it excessive in your opinion?

I'm all considering a 57cm Salsa Vaya too, since I have a good disc wheel set here waiting for a home. But I just noticed the sale on the Saga from Outside Outfitters. Further thoughts on your new ride are appreciated.

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Initial observations (bike is 90% built-up):

Brake boss spacing could be wider. With 24mm rims (Velocity Dyad) and Shimano (BR-R550) canti's, there isn't a lot of room at the fork/stays.

Tire clearance is OK. I'm running 36.5mm (actual) tires, and that's about the widest I'd feel comfortable with. The LHT has better clearance.

Seat binder area could benefit from some reinforcement or a separate clamp altogether. My seatpost slipped until I really honked down on the binder bolt.

Mounting 50mm fenders is going to require some trimming on the rear fender to clear both sets of stays.

BB threads were very clean, and overall alignment was good.

I'm running a Sugino XD2 triple with a 113mm BB, and could probably go down to a 110mm BB.
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Old 06-06-10, 10:47 AM   #86
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Brake boss spacing could be wider. With 24mm rims (Velocity Dyad) and Shimano (BR-R550) canti's, there isn't a lot of room at the fork/stays.
I'm on 26" wheels and I put 21 mm Mavic EX721's on. I found it a bit tight with 21 mm rims, so 24s must have been a real squeeze.

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Seat binder area could benefit from some reinforcement or a separate clamp altogether. My seatpost slipped until I really honked down on the binder bolt.
Same here. I'm toying with getting out the dremel so I can put an aftermarket seatpost clamp on.
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Hey Mark. Interested in your build; thinking something similar myself, though possibly with a flatter style bar -- mustache, Albatross or maybe a J-Bar.

I noticed that they've had issues with slipping posts on the B-Side frame as well. Wondering if perhaps they didn't design the clamp area properly with their Prestige built frames. Are you okay with the amount of torque you had to apply, or was it excessive in your opinion?

I'm all considering a 57cm Salsa Vaya too, since I have a good disc wheel set here waiting for a home. But I just noticed the sale on the Saga from Outside Outfitters. Further thoughts on your new ride are appreciated.
I couldn't get the binder bolt tight enough with allen wrenches that I normally use for fittings that size. I used my Park torque wrench (TW-1), and cranked it down to at least 60 in-lbs. I've never measured the torque/tightness on my other bikes' seatpost binders, but I'd estimate that the Saga required 50% more torque to keep the seatpost (Velo Orange, in my case) from slipping.
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Misc updates:
  • The 50mm Gilles Berthoud fenders are most likely a no-go. Too wide, and the non-rotating stays don't want to cooperate. I'm thinking that SKS P45s would be a better choice.
  • I'm replacing the Shimano canti's (BR-R550) with Tektro CR720s so I can get more clearance at the rim (with the Cane Creek brake levers).
  • With a rear rack (Tubus Cosmo), the front end feels very "light." I may fit a small front rack to balance the overall feel.
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Old 06-09-10, 06:37 AM   #89
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Well, I took the plunge and ordered my Saga in 62cm yesterday!
I couldn't find a distributor that had that size frame in stock, so I had to buy direct from Soma.
Does anyone know how long it might take for me to get it?


Here's my component list, so far. I'll post updates as I work through the build.

Frame / Fork: Soma Saga 62cm, 700c wheels
Headset: Chris King
Crank: Shimano Deore M590
Shifters: Shimano SL-M660
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT M770
Front Derailleur: Shimano SLX M660
Brakes: Tektro CR-720
Front Wheel: Phil Wood CSF700 hub & Velocity Chukker 40H.
Rear Wheel: Phil Wood CSS738 hub & Velocity Chukker 40H.
Tires: Continental TravelContact 700c x 1.75
Saddle: WTB Pure V Pro

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Old 06-09-10, 09:58 AM   #90
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Nothing wrong with that build IMO. What kind of bars & saddle are you going to use?
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I think the Shimano BR-R550's have a more "progressive" feel than the Tektro CR720's. I tried both (with the same pads), and the Shimano's actually felt better.
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Old 06-09-10, 03:41 PM   #92
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I think I'm going to use straight bars of some sort, but haven't finalized that decision yet. Same for the stem.
I'll try a few at the shop that's helping me build it, and choose what feels best and update here afterwards.

Saddle, I went with a WTB Pure V Pro.
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Your saddle choice is ironic to me. i built up an old lugged tourer and posted a thread asking about saddles. All I saw was Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. I thought about saddles that I had tried and the one I kept coming back to was the....you guessed it, WTB Pure V.
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Your saddle choice is ironic to me. i built up an old lugged tourer and posted a thread asking about saddles. All I saw was Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. I thought about saddles that I had tried and the one I kept coming back to was the....you guessed it, WTB Pure V.
I run the Pure V on my full-sus rig and my Saga. I was going to go with a Regal on the SOMA, but the Regal's rails wouldn't allow me to get the saddle back far enough (even with the Velo Orange offset seatpost). The WTB Pure V is such a versatile shape. I have had them in the OEM version all the way up to the Ti-railed jobbie, and they've all worked beautifully.
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Old 06-10-10, 01:30 PM   #95
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Awesome, sounds like I picked a good one. I too have heard Brooks, Brooks, Brooks, but I can't quite justify the cost yet.
Once I'm putting on a thousand miles a year (that'll be a challenge, considering I'm in the midwest!), I'll consider it.
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Well, it seems like Velocity doesn't make a non-disc 40H hub, so I've decided to upgrade to Phil Wood hubs on both front and back.
There goes my budget!
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Finally complete:



Fenders / mudguards not installed, but I figured I'd share anyway.
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Old 06-12-10, 04:05 PM   #98
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not to derail the thread, but it's "you're" not "your" darn homophones.

on topic, lovin the somas... as a "newb" to touring i didn't even know they put out a touring frame.
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Fenders / mudguards not installed, but I figured I'd share anyway.
Looks great. What is the white strip on the seatpost just above the seatpost clamp? What front derailleur did you use?
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Looks great. What is the white strip on the seatpost just above the seatpost clamp? What front derailleur did you use?
The white strip is a piece of white tape. I use it to mark my saddle height.

Front derailleur is a vintage Shimano Deore II that I picked up (new!) on eBay for $11. Works beautifully with the 24/36/46 chainrings, and just clears the chainstay when adjusted to the correct height.
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