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    new to touring, what's some common gear to start out with?

    i got my road bike not too long ago, and decided since i probably wont really want to ride at that really fast pace for a long time, i checked arround to see what else i could do, and came upon touring, and it sounds great to me, i live in southern california, where all i see are houses big buildings, cars, and smog in the air, i've always wanted to get out of the city on my bike, and ride to somewhere and enjoy nature, and get away from the hustle and bustle, im not planing to ride across the country like some others on this forum do, but i would like to ride maybe like a double century, or something like that, just wonder what kind of gear i should get?

    my start is a brooks saddle upgraded from my stock saddle, some conti gator skins, and dont know what else besides maybe a rear rack? not too sure on how to strap my stuff on and what not, but any list of supplies or tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

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    what bike do you have?

    nobody said you have to go fast on daily rides. You don't have to go on tour to see the countryside, get out there and ride your bike however slow or fast you want. Build up your endurance and a daily ride can take you 30 miles from your house easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awesomejack View Post
    what bike do you have?

    nobody said you have to go fast on daily rides. You don't have to go on tour to see the countryside, get out there and ride your bike however slow or fast you want. Build up your endurance and a daily ride can take you 30 miles from your house easily.
    i have been 30 miles from my house, its still houses and cars, and big buildings, but thanks for reply

    EDIT: i bought a bd bike
    http://bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/knight9.htm

    i dont plan to take long tours, probably only at most 3 days

    and im trying to double the one bike as my regular road bike, and a touring bike, dont really mind swapping off parts
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    What you have is primarily a road bike meaning the gearing is on the high side for heavy loads and hill climbing. Also touring bikes have 32 / 36+ spoke wheels for added strength. You could pull a Bob trailer if you wanted to go fully supported or just do credit card tours where you stay in hotels and stop at restaurants to eat. Unfortunately, no bike is made that covers all spectrum's of cycling very well and in your case, you'd have to change a lot of stuff (think big $$$) on that bike to make it a true touring bike. Many have ridden cross country on true road bikes though you're limited to what you can carry and where you can ride due to the narrow tires.
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    or you could get yourself a good saddlebag and barbag ,you would be surprized how much stuff you can carry.Take a look at nun's set up on this forum.

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    Your bike will be fine for credit card touring with a seat post rack/bag and a handle bar bag. You can go as far as you want.

    If you decide that touring is your thing and that you'd like to get into camping and cooking, get yourself a dedicated touring bike. The Windsor Tourist for $600 will work just fine for that. Or a $1400 Trek 520. Or a $1200 Surly LHT. Many others.
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    You can use a seat post rack:
    Add a trunk bag, and even panniers.
    A frame bag can hold many items.

    This one has a quick release which is nice.

    http://www.ebikestop.com/topeak_beam...mes-RK2541.php

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    Very nice cc rig there 10 Wheels.
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    Get out and try a tour. I started with three-day tours and did several before I did my first week-long. It was decades before I did my first 1,000-miler. Take a really light load on that bike. Credit card touring would be ideal, or wait until there's no chance of rain and just take a sleeping bag and pad.

    If you get bitten by the touring bug you'll start figuring out your own answers really soon.

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    Can you hop on a train to get away from the city, so you can spend more time pedaling out there? Start with dayrides, 6-8 hours a day with a picnic stop in the middle. You will figure things out by yourself. Once you have your gear and stuff figured out you can try one-nighters. I'm going to do just that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    You can use a seat post rack:
    Add a trunk bag, and even panniers.
    A frame bag can hold many items.

    This one has a quick release which is nice.

    http://www.ebikestop.com/topeak_beam...mes-RK2541.php

    I notice your not riding 24 / 20 spoke wheels like the OP so I'd caution how much weight should be put on those wheels of his.
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    Another way to start touring is to use one of the hospitality sites, like couchsurfing.org or warmshowers.org, to find hosts for one or more nights and to tour with only changes of clothes and biking food.

    Another idea is to do supported tours. That is, you get someone else to take your gear (i.e. car) to your next destination for you while you ride your bike there. I once tried to arrange such a trip with a friend who had an RV. He would drive the RV to the next stop while I rode there. It never worked out but I liked the idea. Obviously, you can also go with organized tours, as well.

    While touring on a road bike is doable, it does limit the kinds of tours you can take. To do "grand" bike tours (say 1000 miles or more), you will likely need to get a bike specifically designed for touring.

    That said, not every one wants to carry 15 pounds in camping gear and sleep on the ground.

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    10 Wheels: I've noticed in the past that you were using a seatpost rack on your Felt along with panniers. What rack is that? I see two or three online that are seatpost racks with panniers, but wonder which one actually works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akansaskid View Post
    10 Wheels: I've noticed in the past that you were using a seatpost rack on your Felt along with panniers. What rack is that? I see two or three online that are seatpost racks with panniers, but wonder which one actually works well.
    Rack:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Nault View Post
    I notice your not riding 24 / 20 spoke wheels like the OP so I'd caution how much weight should be put on those wheels of his.
    Wheels with 700 X 28 tires:

    http://www.everybicycletire.com/Shop...elset-622.aspx
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    10 Wheels: Thanks. That's the rack you posted about earlier. I'm confused how you used it with panniers, though. How do you keep the hanging panniers out of the wheels when there are no side supports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dooodstevenn View Post
    i have been 30 miles from my house, its still houses and cars, and big buildings
    Wow, you have my sympathy. I don't think I could live like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by dooodstevenn
    i've always wanted to get out of the city on my bike, and ride to somewhere and enjoy nature, and get away from the hustle and bustle
    For starters, I'd just put my bike in the car early in the morning, drive some place nice, take a ride in the country returning to my car, throw my bike back in the car and then drive home. Try that for a while to see how you like it before committing to something more.

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    The rack has a frame you also have to buy:
    Here

    http://www.ebikestop.com/topeak_dual...unt-RK2544.php


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    10 Wheels: Excellent! Does it come with that nifty fender-like extension, too? I'm assuming you've had no problems with yours. Given your mileage and pictures of it fully loaded, that's a pretty good testimony!

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    I made the fender thing. That is why I frist bought the seat post rack.

    Total Loaded Here.

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    My down tube tent holder:
    [SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
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    10 wheel's you've made full use of your bike no doubt about it,but be honest fully loaded how steady is your bike,is it a full carbon frame folk,if so i think your asking for troble those bikes are not made to carry loads like you have.please don't get me wrong im not condemming you in any way more concern ,have you ever seen carbon when it breaks deadly stuff.

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    Felt F-80 aluminum frame (19.5 lb race bike). I weight in at 200+ lbs.
    The bike was fast and steady on chip seal roads in 25 mph head winds.
    Rode 75 miles one day in those conditions.

    It is just a bike that has a good warrenty.

    Here is the tour:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...League-City-TX
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
    I made the fender thing. That is why I frist bought the seat post rack.

    Total Loaded Here.

    10 Wheels, nice setup. I've considered small internal frame packs, but I've always been concerned about inner thigh rub. I see lots of setups with frame packs particularly on the bikepacking sites and I've always wondered if it's an issue.

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    With a steel road bike frame that also doesn't have fender/rack mounts near the rear drop outs, would a seatpost-mounted rack still be preferred over a more traditional rear rack that could be mounted with p-clamps?

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