I don`t quite understand what you`re asking, but I like short reach bars too. It seems to me that most of the short reach bars are "ergo" style, which I find to be a bit on the ugly side, but they feel fine after getting used to them for a while. Two problems with that shape come to mind and I can live with both of them. One is that it makes cable routing for bar end shifters a little bit trickier- the shape of the drops makes it almost impossible to run the cable out of the tape without being in the way of one hand position or another, so you pretty much have to keep it wrapped all the way around to the brake cables. With the tight bends in that style bar, that does affect shifting a little bit. The other issue is that the funny kinks make it a bit uncomfortable to grab in between one position and the next, as opposed to rounder drops where you can slide your hands wherever you want.
I have Ritchey Biomax on one bike and Slasa Short and Shallow on another- both ergo bend and pretty much the same thing except that the Salsas are about half the price of the Ritcheys. Neither of those bars have any flare to speak of, but some of the other Salsas (Bell Laps, I think) are pretty flared. Both bars are set up pretty high (about seat level) and my primary hand position for both is on the ramps- I don`t feel right on the hoods. I also spend a lot of time at the very ends of the bars, with my palms cupping the shifter bodies. When I need food brake control or riding in unstable conditions, I get all the way into the drops, which is easy and fairly comfortable do to the short reach.
I hope I touched on some of what you were wondering. I`m not sure what you were getting at with your comments about longer ramps and more reach on short reach bars. Yes, you do have to take the bar reach into account when you decide on stem length.