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    I miss my touring bike!

    Okay, as some of you may remember, I managed to be a complete idiot, and stuff my "baby's first touring rig" into a boulder, at speed:


    (LHT? Check, Tubus rack? Check, Brooks B17? Check, Ortliebs? Check.)

    So, I did the wise thing, and stripped everything salvageable from it. Everything is tucked away in ziplock bags, waiting for me to mount them on a new steed and take it out into the old forests of Vancouver Island.

    Of course, LBS has this hanging on the wall: http://bicycle-itis.com/used-bike/al...ing-road-frame

    A mysterious alloy touring frame in my size.
    Wise? Unwise?

    I am 26, so my limbs are limber enough to deal with any extra stiffness of the frame, and I don't really have any aspirations of touring in the back wilderness of Siberia, Singapore, or Sri Lanka, so are there any other downsides to an Alloy touring frame?
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    If it is your size, get it on the road.
    [SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGukLuXzH1E

    Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
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    The way a bicycle rides is more dependent on frame geometry, tyres, and saddle than the actual frame and $50.00 isn't a lot of money... you might swap all your parts into this frame and love it which would be great and if you donn;t you could probably flip the frame for what you paid for it.

    My Aluminium framed commutourer is a very comfortable bicycle... the rigidity of the frame assists with acceleration and climbing while the 700:28 and 700:35 tyres I run really smooth out the ride.

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    2 replies from the knowledge.

    Gonna go have a chat with them tomorrow...and hopefully buy it next pay.

    I would get it now...but teeth are expensive.
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    22,000 miles on my aluminum Felt.

    [SIZE=1][B]What I like about Texas[/B]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGukLuXzH1E

    Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jfcWEkSrI

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    12,000 + km since I bought and re-worked it 3 years ago... based on the lack of wear to the stock parts I don't think it had been ridden much at all before I snagged it.

    It does everything in every season here except when it gets below -25C... I don't like deraileur gears in really cold temps.


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    Bring the rear wheel with you and check the spacing. If it's an older bike the rear wheel spacing may be too narrow, and you can't safely bend aluminum out.

    It looks like an older Cannondale. They built their company on touring frames.

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    Bicycle Repair Man !!! Sixty Fiver's Avatar
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    Alan makes a good point... if the frame spacing is too narrow for your wheels you won't be able to use the rear unless you get it laced to a hub that fits.

    This is a big plus for steel frames.

    My Trek is 135 mm in the rear and many touring bikes use the wider dropout spacing to accommodate mtb hubs instead of road hubs.

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    OUCH! Sorry about your loss. What condition was the fork in? It looks relatively unbent and just the frame buckled...

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    Bent as wel, one of the blade is farther back than the other. Maybe it's twisted on the steer tube, no sure, but it wasn't happy about mr. boulder either.
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    Consult with the lbs to make sure there will be no significant mismatches with your salvaged parts. Buy it, have it powder coated, slap on some custom decals,
    and hit the road. Where's the down side?
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    People seem to like the Nashbar touring frame and it's$99 and I think it comes with a fork. There are many posts on BF.

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    Save your money and buy a new LHT frame. You know you want to. (Maybe?)

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    Wait, 50? A couple weeks ago it was 70...or 75!

    ...I'm going there right now!

    Edit: Thanks guys!
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    I return, with aluminum in hand.

    I had the guys at the shop measure the rear spacing, it is 135mm, but it is a 700c frame...guess I'll need to get my hub laced to a new rim...or...trade the rear wheel in for something in 700. Oh well, minor complication I believe.
    Also found out that it is a 1" threaded chromoly fork.
    It's an interesting frame to me, and they said that if something wasn't going to work out how I liked, that I could take it back.

    I did ask if they had any idea what it was, but they couldn't even remember how they got it in the first place.

    Anyways, pics of the frame:









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    The 1st photo looks like there are no water bottle braze-ons? If that is the case there are plenty of clamp-on options out there...

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    There are 3 sets of bottle mounts: both sides of the downtube and on the seat tube.
    They are pretty flush with the tubes, so they are hard to see.

    Now I get the fun of hunting down some local powder coating places, and seeing what the estimates will run.

    Hmmm...blank slate...what colour?
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    Man that would make me sick if that happen to my surly lht.If I was you I would just get a new lht frame and put all the parts back on.
    Then you will have your lht back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscuro View Post
    There are 3 sets of bottle mounts: both sides of the downtube and on the seat tube.
    They are pretty flush with the tubes, so they are hard to see.

    Now I get the fun of hunting down some local powder coating places, and seeing what the estimates will run.

    Hmmm...blank slate...what colour?
    Three choices:

    Forest green



    Yellow



    Or Red




    No black! Too many black bikes around. Boooooorrrrinnnnggggggg.
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    How about a blue to silver fade ?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    How about a blue to silver fade ?


    Bicycle fade paint jobs are a sickness. Seek help before it comes to this


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    Good luck!

    One option is to find a guy that paints motorcycles. He'll prob do paint
    and that electro thing. I did that, worked out OK, except I should have had it clear coated.
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    I vote forest green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDC1956 View Post
    Man that would make me sick if that happen to my surly lht.If I was you I would just get a new lht frame and put all the parts back on.
    Then you will have your lht back.
    I did think about that...but that's $400+ for the frame and fork...vs...well, $40.
    Okay, maybe add $100 or something for powdercoating...to be honest, I don't know how much it'll be, but I'll find out. But I do get to chose a colour I like, which is good Since most likely, if I bought a LHT frame now...I'd end up with like, Truckachino or whatever that rancid brown colour was (No offense to those who like it...).

    On colour, I'm not really sold on yellow. Green of some variety is temping, although a nice deep red could be very, very nice.
    I don't know about fades, but I could look into it.
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    I fully recommend either getting a LHT frame and using everything off that one, or getting a MTB frame. Something like the 90s Trek 800s. Steel, with the right spacing for your hubs, tires, and rims. Only think you might need is a threadless quill adapter.

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