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Old 05-17-10, 08:37 PM   #1
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Will a kick stand damage my frame?

I have heard of people pinching there frames to tight with kickstand mounts, and damage there frame.

I have a Surly LHT, and would like to get a double kickstand, maybe a single

if anyone has suggestions of kickstand and how to correctly mount it?
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Old 05-17-10, 08:46 PM   #2
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Old 05-17-10, 08:54 PM   #3
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I use a rear mounted kickstand on my LHT,the kind that mount on the seat stay and chain stay.
But there is no reason you can't mount any kickstand you want to your bike.
If you mount a double legged or even a single up front close to the bottom bracket just tape a piece of old inner tube underneath the clamps.This helps keep it from slipping and you won't need to tighten it to much.

Actually this is a good thing to do no matter what kickstand you use.

Over tightening is what crushes or bends the tubes.
Lock nuts may also help,but I haven't needed them.
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You could always use a Click-stand, where is he when you need him?

www.Click-Stand.com
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During my years working in bike shops I have seen many bikes with bent chain stays due to overtightened kickstands. As someone above mentioned, stands that fit on both stays, toward the dropout, lessen the chance of damage to the frame.

I'm one of those cyclists who has never (in 40+ years of cycling) felt the need for a kickstand.
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Old 05-18-10, 06:47 AM   #6
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I could not get happy with something bolted on my frame and bought a Click Stand. Works pretty well...I think there is a trick to it that I'm still trying to master....but I think its a pretty elegant solution. I need an adapter or something to allow it to be used in a soft dirt scenario ( the relatively pointy end wants to sink into the soft dirt)... and I seem to recall the owner of CS saying he was going to offer something soon.
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I have had a single legged kickstand on my 2004 LHT near the bottom bracket since I built it up. As noted above, you can put inner tube rubber around the stays. I instead put several layers of electrical tape on the surfaces of my kickstand to protect the paint. There are reports of people cranking down the kickstand bolt too much on the LHT and squishing the stays, it is a large bolt and people get tempted to crank it down hard because logic suggests such a big bolt should be torqued that tight. But, it only has to be tight enough that after repeated use it does not shift position. If it shifts position a bit after a while, tighten it slightly more. A little blue locktite on the bolt is also a good idea.

I tried three different rear mount kickstands and none fit well due to the spare spoke holder on the LHT. I could have done some surgery on the kickstand mount to make it fit, but I was lazy and instead used the front mounted kickstand. The newer LHT has different rear stays and dropouts than the older LHTs (I have the older design), so I do not know if the spoke holder is a problem on the newer LHT or not. On the newer LHT design, the stays have a larger diameter where they meet the dropout, I do not know when Surly changed the design.

I have a rear mounted kickstand on another bike, you can turn the crank around without the kickstand being in the way which is nice when you clean and lube the chain. I prefer the rear mounted kickstand in part for this reason.
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I've had one on my old Shogun for 30 years,frames still fine,kickstand has seen better days.
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Maybe... Maybe not... Is it worth the risk and weight? Not willing to pack it or risk it myself. Thank goodness we all agree on everything
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I could not get happy with something bolted on my frame and bought a Click Stand. Works pretty well...I think there is a trick to it that I'm still trying to master....but I think its a pretty elegant solution. I need an adapter or something to allow it to be used in a soft dirt scenario ( the relatively pointy end wants to sink into the soft dirt)... and I seem to recall the owner of CS saying he was going to offer something soon.
I heard somewhere that slipping a plastic card (library card or similar) underneath the pointy end works well. Just a tip
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Old 05-19-10, 01:21 PM   #12
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A kickstand braze-on would solve this dilemma, wouldn't it?

I'm with kyakdiver on this, the clickstand concept is just not my thang, though I love kickstands and the fluid motion of dismounting and getting the kickstand down in one fluid motion, hihi quite simply bicycle-ballet!

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Old 05-19-10, 03:28 PM   #13
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I really like that clickstand thing. I don't trust low-mounted kickstands, I've had more bikes fall over trying to use them that I have just leaning my bike on something.

Or just lay your bike on the ground. Bada-boom, bada-bing!
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Old 05-19-10, 05:32 PM   #14
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To answer your question, yes it can. It probably wont damage the structural integrity of the chain stays, but it can flatten the tubing and scrape the paint.
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Old 05-19-10, 05:55 PM   #15
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Another Clickstand fan. Deployable while standing over the bar enjoying the view. Like when on a steep slope.
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