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Old 05-18-10, 10:38 AM   #1
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Ortlieb BackRoller Classic(upgrade)

I can get Ortlieb BackRoller Classic $120pair

I have Axiom Seymour I have only had them for a shot time

I want to know what people think of the Ortlieb. I would mainly uses them for commuting really, but I plan to do some touring in the future.

Could I uses the Axiom for from Panniers if I ever need them? or are they to big,

Also what color do you think would look good on my blue Surly LHT, Im thinking yellow

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Backrollers are really nice and I have a set. That being said... for commuting I think they are larger than I would want to use everyday. Would suggest some front rollers for commuting. You could always use them for front panniers and the Axioms for rear when you do that big tour. The best part about using the Ortlieb's for commuting is never having to worry about stuff getting wet.
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I prefer Ortliebs to have the QL-2 mounting system just because you can use the (admittedly weak) anti-theft cables with them. I don't have the rollers, although I had a pair of front rollers and never used them on a tour, which I re-gifted back to my dad. I greatly prefer the easier access of the Bikepacker models, but then I don't walk my bicycle through 3-foot deep rivers or anything like that. The rollers are best for maximum waterprooficity, I think.
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Ortliebs are a fantastic and simple product, great that you don't have to mess with rain covers. They are devoid of pockets, though (although maybe the newer ones now come with an inside pocket). I added an outside pocket to one of mine and enjoy having easier access to wallets and phones without having to dig around in the big bag.
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I have a full set of the Ortlieb Classic back rollers. I have used the smaller front set for commuting in crappy weather. They are very versatile. The best use I have seen so far was to fill them full of ice and beer...

BTW Ortleib stuff is great and worth the price.

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I have two sets of Ortlieb backrollers, but I think the Axion Seymour panniers would be fine for both touring and commuting if they have the posi-locking mechanism that most Axiom panniers have to secure firmly panniers to rack. For waterproofness, stow items in a trash compactor bag inside the Seymours.
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I dont know what the Posi- Locking mechanism is, i figure that is more like the Ortlieb or something better then what i have

The Axioms I have just have a 2 junky hooks and a bungee cord at the bottom with a hook(I had to shorten the Bungee even
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Could I uses the Axiom for from Panniers if I ever need them? or are they to big,

Also what color do you think would look good on my blue Surly LHT, Im thinking yellow

Thanks have a nice day
yellow is nice, not sure what you're trying to say but you can roll the rollers down and bungie them flat against the rack. I don't like to ride around with an inflated pannier when there's nothing in it.
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Ortlieb roller panniers are easily worth the price. They're simple, durable, and the mounting system is first-rate.
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I have both and I always use the my Ortlieb Front Roller Classics for communting. You can't beat there simple mounting system.
The Axiom have a cheap system in my opinion. I will buy a set a back Roller Classics in June. Mine a yellow on my Rootbeer 520 and they look great.
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I'm sorry, if you are looking for an unbiased opinion

Orlieb's are great. Yellow not only looks good with most bikes, it is probably the most visible.

PS. This sure beats the "stealth" camping tread!
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I have the classic back rollers and like them for the rear. For the front I use non-waterproof panniers that have several external pockets for rain gear, warm outerwear and extra water bottles.
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This page shows the posi-lock (see third image). It is a piece of plastic between the hooks that one rotates to lock panniers in place. Apparently the Seymour panniers don't have this. I have this locking system on several of my panniers and it works extremely well.

http://www.allweathercyclist.com/tag/pannier/

Bye the way, starting May 21 REI has Ortlieb backrollers on sale for $120 for members with free shipping. If you are looking to get backrollers, and you want waterproof panniers for both front and rear racks, maybe buy two pairs. Possible to use backrollers both front and back -- I do. Some on this forum will suggest not using two large sets of panniers both front and back because it invites over-packing -- just use self-control.

Here's an even lower price if shipping is inexpensive:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post10832536

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Bye the way, starting May 21 REI has Ortlieb backrollers on sale for $120 for members with free shipping.

This is why I am interested in getting them even thought I just got the Axiom, I feel like thats a great deal, and also now where i live, I live really close to a REI, so no biggie, also they have a discount on Feedback Work Stand I also think of buying this http://www.rei.com/product/785440, along with 20%, (im a new member) I just need to remember I cant spend lots of money
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Ortlieb roller panniers are easily worth the price. They're simple, durable, and the mounting system is first-rate.
I agree. They were my first choice and I have been very happy with mine ever since. I've never have thought they were too big for everyday commuting.
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I ordered the White and they should hopefully be here tomorrow, maybe Thursday.

Next I want a White handlebar bag, then I need to find a front rack, then the front rollers, then I will be happy,

I liked the Yellow, and actually bought then yellow then returned them when I ordered white, most my friends said I should go with white, and I figure not many people have the white, sense I think its a newer color, I like the bike Logo, Show off a little.
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This is why I am interested in getting them even thought I just got the Axiom, I feel like thats a great deal, and also now where i live, I live really close to a REI, so no biggie, also they have a discount on Feedback Work Stand I also think of buying this http://www.rei.com/product/785440, along with 20%, (im a new member) I just need to remember I cant spend lots of money

So you know beforehand ...... REI's 20% discounts are for full priced items only . No sale items ,no outlet items. Common mistake!
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My guess is that you can get the workstand somewhere else for a better price. I've been pretty disappointed by REI in the last few years. A large portion of the time the sale items are things that don't suit what I'm looking for or the sizes are wrong. For bike specific items I always shop around and usually find a better deal. Dividend not withstanding it doesn't impress me if I can get free shipping to my door and a better price. Many has been the time I got free shipping and not tax which has offset any savings from the dividend.
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So you know beforehand ...... REI's 20% discounts are for full priced items only . No sale items ,no outlet items. Common mistake!
Agreed, but if you are a regular REI shopper you can apply your dividend towards them. I bought my full set of front and rears for ~$160 after the sale price and putting my dividend towards them.

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