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    Poncho on tour, how well did it do?

    Well, I went on a short tour, only 8 days, to Bavaria, where they've had the wettest summer in years, and so, as you may or may not know, I got a Carradice Poncho - having previously had a gortex type jacket, which was slightly better than useless.
    We ended up only getting one day of rain, and not constant rain at that.
    But I have to report, the poncho worked wonderfully. I stayed dry, a constant stream of air passing underneath. I could feel the circulation, which meant I stayed cool and dry. There was no real wind, so can't say how it affected drag/billowing, but on one section we were on the road with lots of trucks, and I didn't have a problem with the poncho whipping up.
    I even found that when it stopped raining it was still an effective top cover.
    I found that if I got hot, I could pull the poncho right over the handlebars, so it increased circulation, and when I was a little cooler, I could drop it off the handlebars, thus lessening the air circulation and warming me up.
    I'm really pleased with how it behaved and will definitely use it again.
    One other thing - I stopped using my waterproof gaitors - they made my feet hot, and I found that after getting some fenders to fit my bike, my feet were covered from above and close by.

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    Gotte, glad to hear that your poncho wasn't needed too often, and when it was, it performed well. Would you say that a poncho would be a bad idea on a bike without fenders in the rain? Lots of protection from above but not much from below?

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    Well, funnily, I don't usually have fenders on my bike, and last year, when I went down the mosel and it rained cats and dogs for two days, I used a gortex jacket, rain legs (kind of waterproof coverings for the top of your upper legs), and gaitors which covered my shoes and lower legs. The jacket was useless, but the rain legs and gaitors worked admirable. It was colder there, though, so I didn;t really notice the heat in my feet. This time, I took the gaitors as a backup, not sure if my feet would be covered by the poncho, but soon realised that they were, and having finally got some fenders to fit my bike, there was no water off the tyres to wet my feet. Without the fenders, I'd take the gaitors, but not the rain legs, as the top of my legs were covered by the poncho. I'm not sure about rain washing up off the back tyre without fenders. My poncho has a waist tie, which means that it doesn't flap at the back, and, I guess that would mean it's held close enough to the saddle to not let any water get up to your trousers. I figure if you haven't got a waist tie, and you sit on the saddle, water will eventually run down the back and soak into your trousers where it touches them.
    So, my advice would be, get one with a waist tie, and use gaitors.
    One last thing, the Carriadice Duxback I chose is waxed cotton, so it's heavier and I suppose is less likely to flap around like some of the cheaper, thinner plastic ones I've seen. Also, it's black (contensious, I know), but this means you don't stand out like a sore thumb. Ironically, my friend had a bright yellow one, which he chose not to wear because he felt like such a fool. He preferred to get wet.
    The Duxback is beautifully made, and the hood is really well cut so it never blocks your vision or rubs when you turn your head.
    I'm no speed demon, so I didn;t notice any increase in drag, and I did find that when it stopped raining, I could just keep the cape on. If I was climbing and started to get hot, I could throw the poncho over one shoulder, and then even both shoulders and I got a really good cooling breeze - in fact, I'd say in that respect it was more flexible that a jacket, as it exposed my arms as well as my chest, whereas with a jacket, to get the same effect you'd have to take the jacket off.

    Hope that's help to you. All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotte View Post
    Well, I went on a short tour, only 8 days, to Bavaria, where they've had the wettest summer in years, and so, as you may or may not know, I got a Carradice Poncho - having previously had a gortex type jacket, which was slightly better than useless.
    We ended up only getting one day of rain, and not constant rain at that.
    But I have to report, the poncho worked wonderfully. I stayed dry, a constant stream of air passing underneath. I could feel the circulation, which meant I stayed cool and dry. There was no real wind, so can't say how it affected drag/billowing, but on one section we were on the road with lots of trucks, and I didn't have a problem with the poncho whipping up.
    I even found that when it stopped raining it was still an effective top cover.
    I found that if I got hot, I could pull the poncho right over the handlebars, so it increased circulation, and when I was a little cooler, I could drop it off the handlebars, thus lessening the air circulation and warming me up.
    I'm really pleased with how it behaved and will definitely use it again.
    One other thing - I stopped using my waterproof gaitors - they made my feet hot, and I found that after getting some fenders to fit my bike, my feet were covered from above and close by.
    I'm glad to hear the poncho worked out so well.I've been thinking about getting one for myself and was curious as to how the carradice poncho packs up.I really like my carradice panniers and would like to stick with a carradice poncho unless they pack way to big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdom View Post
    I'm glad to hear the poncho worked out so well.I've been thinking about getting one for myself and was curious as to how the carradice poncho packs up.I really like my carradice panniers and would like to stick with a carradice poncho unless they pack way to big.
    It's not massively big, but is bigger than another plastic poncho I have. It's unpacked at the minute, so I can't tell you for definate, but it folds and rolls into a cylindrical cotton bag which is about 10 to 12" long and about 4 or 5" in diameter. It's weightier than most other waterproofs, but that's to be expected from waxed cotton, and as mentioned above, may actually help it stop billowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotte View Post
    It's not massively big, but is bigger than another plastic poncho I have. It's unpacked at the minute, so I can't tell you for definate, but it folds and rolls into a cylindrical cotton bag which is about 10 to 12" long and about 4 or 5" in diameter. It's weightier than most other waterproofs, but that's to be expected from waxed cotton, and as mentioned above, may actually help it stop billowing.
    Thanks that isn't any bigger than a rain jacket and pants together.Since I have fenders I shouldn't be needing any thing to go with it so I'll be getting one of those soon.

    Edit:Just thought I would also ask weather these work with handlebar bags as well,I don't see why they wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdom View Post
    Thanks that isn't any bigger than a rain jacket and pants together.Since I have fenders I shouldn't be needing any thing to go with it so I'll be getting one of those soon.

    Edit:Just thought I would also ask weather these work with handlebar bags as well,I don't see why they wouldn't.
    Yes, it fit over my handlebar bag, which was another bonus, as it kept it dry, as well. Of course, you could have it behind the handlebar bag, if it was fully waterproof and had a map case with no problem at all.

    Hope you enjoy it if you get one.

    All the best

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    say phil why not post a photo of it i heard your pretty handy with a camera.

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    +1 here.

    The image that comes to mind is of the old French bicycle police capes, that fit over the handlebars and looked really cool. The only modern example that I know of is this
    http://www.papertastebuds.com/?p=4904 althought this http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Rain-Capes.html is much more practical and reasonably priced. Where did you get yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotte View Post
    Well, I went on a short tour, only 8 days, to Bavaria, where they've had the wettest summer in years, and so, as you may or may not know, I got a Carradice Poncho - having previously had a gortex type jacket, which was slightly better than useless.
    We ended up only getting one day of rain, and not constant rain at that.

    But I have to report, the poncho worked wonderfully. I stayed dry, a constant stream of air passing underneath. I could feel the circulation, which meant I stayed cool and dry. There was no real wind, so can't say how it affected drag/billowing, but on one section we were on the road with lots of trucks, and I didn't have a problem with the poncho whipping up.
    I even found that when it stopped raining it was still an effective top cover.
    I found that if I got hot, I could pull the poncho right over the handlebars, so it increased circulation, and when I was a little cooler, I could drop it off the handlebars, thus lessening the air circulation and warming me up.
    I'm really pleased with how it behaved and will definitely use it again.
    One other thing - I stopped using my waterproof gaitors - they made my feet hot, and I found that after getting some fenders to fit my bike, my feet were covered from above and close by.
    Where did you order it from.I live in the USA/Arkansas and I have been trying to get one with no luck so far any info as to how and where thanks.

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    yes, I see how it being heavier would help immensely with the blowing around. I believe I said in another thread you wrote in, that my early experiences with ponchos were off-putting, due to them blowing all over and moving my bike a bit.
    I'm glad that your experience worked well. I spoke with my German Bavarian friend last week (he and I had done some trips together ) and he told me that the weather was pretty bad this summer, the worst since they began recording info he said. Glad you only had one day of rain, its a drag when it more isnt it on a bike tour.

    As someone mentioned, the extra weight might be the same as jacket and pants, so I guess the weight would not be too much more--balance that oiut with your good experience with it.....tempting, but i am still wary of having my bike move on its own more with a side wind gust on narrow roads.

    f8 and be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antokelly View Post
    say phil why not post a photo of it i heard your pretty handy with a camera.
    Why, thanks for the compliment. I only have a few, blurry pics I tried taking in a darkened window. The results weren't particularly good. I'd have to see what I could make of it, but I'll have a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safariofthemind View Post
    +1 here.

    The image that comes to mind is of the old French bicycle police capes, that fit over the handlebars and looked really cool. The only modern example that I know of is this
    http://www.papertastebuds.com/?p=4904 althought this http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Rain-Capes.html is much more practical and reasonably priced. Where did you get yours?
    That Postalco one is very like the one I've got, except for the buttons up the front. If it was totally waterproof, I'd love one with buttons up the front. You could unbutton it for off the bike. You could even throw it over your shoulder like a cavalier . I'd like that.
    Like you say, it is indeed very much like french Police capes, and, I like to think, really stylish in a pre-war kind of way. One of the best things is that it's waxed cotton, not nylon or PVC, and it's black, which, though arguably more dangerous, much more stylish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDC1956 View Post
    Where did you order it from.I live in the USA/Arkansas and I have been trying to get one with no luck so far any info as to how and where thanks.
    I got mine online in the UK. It was from a store I forget the name of. Luckily for me it was the last one. Even the Carradice store says sold out. They may soon restock, but I imagine it's a pretty marginal item, and so, there won't ever be thousands out there.
    You could try searching Google UK for the product. You might get lucky, like me and hit a shop that's one one in the back somewhere. I'm sure they'd deliver to the US. All it is is extra postage to them.

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    i think wiggle sell them,but i could be wrong.

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    Peter White cycles sells the carradice rain capes and the leg coverings as well. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

    There is also a company in Oregon that makes/sells an interesting looking cycling cape that I recently ordered (will post a review when I receive it and get a chance to try it out)
    http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Rain-Capes.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDC1956 View Post
    Where did you order it from.I live in the USA/Arkansas and I have been trying to get one with no luck so far any info as to how and where thanks.
    I usually order my stuff direct from CarradiceUK and I live in the US. Turn around time is decent and they will tell you if they have it in stock or not.

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