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    Quote Originally Posted by PolarBear007 View Post
    Looks like a sweet ride!!! Are those full-size Ortliebs on the front rack in pics 1 and 4? If so, which front rack do you use?
    Yes! I highly recommend trying your bike with the large panniers up front. The bike steers and handles like a dream. It's just more responsive and road vibrations are damped.

    The rack I use is a Tubus Nova. Great rack that I've put thousands of miles on. Can't say enough about the stainless tubus racks. I've got a Tubus Cosmo in the rear. Compared to the other models Tubus sells (titanium bits excepted) they don't have paint chipping, abrasing, or rust issues. Trust me, a black or silver painted rack will look thrashed in a few years time. My stainless ones are going on 4 years strong and look brand new! I never regret spending the extra money on those racks, since they are rock solid, look great, and have a 30 year warranty.

    In any case, good luck with your bike metamorphasis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedal_Inn View Post
    Yes! I highly recommend trying your bike with the large panniers up front. The bike steers and handles like a dream. It's just more responsive and road vibrations are damped.

    The rack I use is a Tubus Nova. Great rack that I've put thousands of miles on. Can't say enough about the stainless tubus racks. I've got a Tubus Cosmo in the rear. Compared to the other models Tubus sells (titanium bits excepted) they don't have paint chipping, abrasing, or rust issues. Trust me, a black or silver painted rack will look thrashed in a few years time. My stainless ones are going on 4 years strong and look brand new! I never regret spending the extra money on those racks, since they are rock solid, look great, and have a 30 year warranty.

    In any case, good luck with your bike metamorphasis!
    Thanks! I've wondered how well rear panniers would fit up front - great idea. I like the tubus cosmos ss rear rack - looks really solid.
    I'm planning on de-branding my 23" Schwinn High Plains updating components and powder-coating the frame - metamorphosizing it into the ULTIMATE TOURING MACHINE!!!

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    My first custom frame-up build. Only thing I over looked was a 25.4 stem and a 26.0 handlebar..... you know, the basic stuff. Other than that, it was a very fun build and still in the process. Velo Orange rear/front rack, some bottle cages, a Paul Components light mount, and a Silca pump if I can find one are next on the list.... oh, and the correct stem.... along with a steer tube trim.
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    That is a great looking bike! Good Job! Nice attention to details!

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    About to unpack from this weekends little three day bike camping trip and I thought id post an updated pic of my fargo. Added the aero bars for this one and I like them a lot.20140324_134230.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by psy View Post
    Ooooooooh! Loving the aerobars addition!

    I want to try them on my trekking bars. What do you make of them so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhawk View Post
    Ooooooooh! Loving the aerobars addition!

    I want to try them on my trekking bars. What do you make of them so far?
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    Very well done.

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    joaozinhomenininho: Bolívia - Puerto Quijarro - 6541km

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    Updated photo of my Surly Troll, ready for touring Japan!

    I use the frame bag to carry water, can put about a gallon in there. Keeps the weight off the racks and makes the bike handle a lot better than with water on the rear or front racks.
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    neat Sparky, do you use a bladder type thingee in there?
    Oh, I hoped you didnt step on your glasses!

    ps, is that amount of slack not a problem with your igh?
    pps, I've often wondered why more people dont use chain guard things on these setups. I saw a couple who had them on their rohlof bikes a few years ago, it seemed like a really neat idea, to keep mud and crud off the chain, reducing the wear on the specific rohlof gear.

    (I've been eyeing the Troll for a while now, as a great 26er for going rough places)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyGA View Post


    Updated photo of my Surly Troll, ready for touring Japan!

    I use the frame bag to carry water, can put about a gallon in there. Keeps the weight off the racks and makes the bike handle a lot better than with water on the rear or front racks.
    This is a really sweet rig. I keep a 3L Platypus bladder and two 2L Platypus bottles in my Revelate Designs Tangle Bag when I need to carry more water. I agree that it makes the handling much easier. I also have a Sawyer Squeeze filter with an in-line attachment on the Camelbak, so I can just squeeze filtered water into my frame bags without removing them. It's handy.

    I have the tube running up to my handlebars, and I can drink while riding.
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    Oh, one more thing: Watch your fuel bottle. That bottle cage kept loosening up on me over time and rattling/moving while I rode. I replaced it with a Salsa Anything cage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djb View Post
    neat Sparky, do you use a bladder type thingee in there?
    Oh, I hoped you didnt step on your glasses!

    ps, is that amount of slack not a problem with your igh?
    pps, I've often wondered why more people dont use chain guard things on these setups. I saw a couple who had them on their rohlof bikes a few years ago, it seemed like a really neat idea, to keep mud and crud off the chain, reducing the wear on the specific rohlof gear.
    Yeah, I've got a 4L MSR bladder in there with a hose going up to my handlebars.

    Was having some issues getting my chain length right, but this evening I played around with it again and discovered that my front sprocket was "a little" worn out. Replaced it, and suddenly my chains slack was a lot better after that. Turns out after a few continents, you need replace you sprocket LOL.

    Never put on a chain guard on this bike as I don't have an issue with my pant leg getting caught in the sprocket.

    Trolls: Love mine. Trolls are great frames if you need to build a bike that can do a bit of everything. I really like the rear dropout more than anything else for touring. I love the flexibility of the frame, good for touring, MTB, bike packing, road riding etc and the number of options on how to setup the bike (IGH or derailers, V-brakes or discs)

    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    Oh, one more thing: Watch your fuel bottle. That bottle cage kept loosening up on me over time and rattling/moving while I rode. I replaced it with a Salsa Anything cage.
    Really? I've had mine on there for awhile without issues. I usually have a small bungee strap around the cap just a bit of extra safety too. I'll keep a eye on it, and pack a spare water bottle cage just in case of it failing. Thanks
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    sparky, this is the doohickey I was referring to, a pretty neat system to cover the chain so that in really bad conditions, you'd have less mud and such getting all over the chain and rings, kinda neat, but I suspect it is rather exclusive, and probably expensive. I read this cgoab trip journal a few years ago and remembered this thing. Worked for them in any case, journal is Panamericanos on the pan american or thereabouts.

    makes sense to me to cover it all up if there is no derailleur, as mentioned though, its probably pretty rare.
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    Not fully loaded, but here she is!tumblr_n268n0o6Fv1t1gxgxo1_1280.jpg

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    So which one's better?

    Setup A (Raleigh Sojourn with Bob Yak) or Setup B (Surly LHT Deluxe with panniers)?

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    I always prefer panniers to a trailer. I see the big metal trailer and extra wheel and think about carrying it up a hill... no thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    I always prefer panniers to a trailer. I see the big metal trailer and extra wheel and think about carrying it up a hill... no thanks.
    Not sure if you understand the point of a trailer. Or if you've ever ridden with a trailer. Curious what trailer you've used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapeworm21 View Post
    Not sure if you understand the point of a trailer. Or if you've ever ridden with a trailer. Curious what trailer you've used.
    BOB Yak: 13lbs 8oz

    My camping baseweight for 4 seasons: 12lbs

    Unless that thing has a motor in it, it's unnecessary for me to even consider it. It's half a bike in weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    BOB Yak: 13lbs 8oz

    My camping baseweight for 4 seasons: 12lbs

    Unless that thing has a motor in it, it's unnecessary for me to even consider it. It's half a bike in weight.

    Trailers have their advantages when one requires heavy loading. I can see doing a 4 - 5 day trip with only 12 lbs of gear, but it's impractical to think that you can do remote touring with only that. Imagine going through the Mongolian desert for 3 weeks without any human contact. You need gear / supplies to last you a while. A Bob Yak can really pack on that weight.

    I use the BOB yak when I go touring with my wife. She can't carry too many things and more often than not, even if we go for a few days, I have a 24 of beer in that bag + some food, etc. You can be a minimalist, but sometimes comfort requires a bit more gear. Not everyone is up to wearing one pair of shorts for 2 weeks.

    Each to his own. Nobody's right or wrong, but it's up to the individual what he or she wants to sacrifice "weight" or "comfort"...

    I personally love the BOB Yak, but then again, I avoid going through the Swiss Alps with it trailing behind me

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    I agree with the Mongolian thing, but even then, I still wouldn't use a trailer. Two panniers would be ok for me. My standards of comfort are far below the "average" for the forum (as I see it.)

    I toured 30 days, unsupported, with 8 pounds of stuff. It was amazing, and I've done every tour light since then. I hit Colorado this past winter and I did it with two panniers, and that included a 15º sleeping bag and fully enclosed tent.
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