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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapeworm21 View Post
    Not sure if you understand the point of a trailer. Or if you've ever ridden with a trailer. Curious what trailer you've used.
    BOB Yak: 13lbs 8oz

    My camping baseweight for 4 seasons: 12lbs

    Unless that thing has a motor in it, it's unnecessary for me to even consider it. It's half a bike in weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdilthey View Post
    BOB Yak: 13lbs 8oz

    My camping baseweight for 4 seasons: 12lbs

    Unless that thing has a motor in it, it's unnecessary for me to even consider it. It's half a bike in weight.

    Trailers have their advantages when one requires heavy loading. I can see doing a 4 - 5 day trip with only 12 lbs of gear, but it's impractical to think that you can do remote touring with only that. Imagine going through the Mongolian desert for 3 weeks without any human contact. You need gear / supplies to last you a while. A Bob Yak can really pack on that weight.

    I use the BOB yak when I go touring with my wife. She can't carry too many things and more often than not, even if we go for a few days, I have a 24 of beer in that bag + some food, etc. You can be a minimalist, but sometimes comfort requires a bit more gear. Not everyone is up to wearing one pair of shorts for 2 weeks.

    Each to his own. Nobody's right or wrong, but it's up to the individual what he or she wants to sacrifice "weight" or "comfort"...

    I personally love the BOB Yak, but then again, I avoid going through the Swiss Alps with it trailing behind me

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    I agree with the Mongolian thing, but even then, I still wouldn't use a trailer. Two panniers would be ok for me. My standards of comfort are far below the "average" for the forum (as I see it.)

    I toured 30 days, unsupported, with 8 pounds of stuff. It was amazing, and I've done every tour light since then. I hit Colorado this past winter and I did it with two panniers, and that included a 15 sleeping bag and fully enclosed tent.
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    My hat off to you! I couldn't do that. I'm touring in Europe this summer and I'm having a hell of a time figuring out how to pack my bike and supplies for a 7 day trip to France. I have my bicycle (which fits in one standard airline suitcase), tent, sleeping bag, mat, bike lock, very very basic tools (a spare tube, a mini tool and a bike pump), DSLR camera, Go Pro, iPad mini, chargers, clothes, wallet, helmet, a small first aid kit, basic toiletries, etc... the basics... I have two rear panniers, two small front ones, a small saddle bag and handlebar bag...

    This is how I packed last year to Europe... This year I actually bought a bike case from S&S Machine


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    Your packing problem almost certainly falls under "clothes" and "tent." I went super minimalist there.

    In Colorado, I had a sub-10oz hammock and about 2 outfits, all merino wool and washed frequently.
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    All set and ready to go for my cross USA tour, departing 4/21

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    From an early season overnight


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    Quote Originally Posted by perspiration View Post
    All set and ready to go for my cross USA tour, departing 4/21

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    My Le Tour Luxe with Ortlieb bags and a tent, sleeping bag, and chair on the back (left the chair at home).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwpshaw View Post
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    My Le Tour Luxe with Ortlieb bags and a tent, sleeping bag, and chair on the back (left the chair at home).
    Nice bike stand. What type is it and where did you get it? I need something similar for my touring bike.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by B200Pilot View Post
    Nice bike stand. What type is it and where did you get it? I need something similar for my touring bike.

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    It's called 'Click Stand'. A great product that does it's job well. My wife has one for her touring bike. Website here: Products & Ordering

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwpshaw View Post
    I'm glad you liked your Christmas present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry66 View Post
    My Salsa in Ohiopyle on the Allegheny Passage
    if you lower your back panniers your will have a much more stable ride.
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    Bmike I like that bike what frame is it almost looks like my GT mountain bike might do some modifications on it.

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    Use for tours in Europe up to 14 days (stay at night in hotel or guesthouse):



    Weight of the bike with rear rack: approx. 8,1 kg

    Weight including luggage and panniers: approx. 13 kg

    Details of bike here:

    Racing Bike with Rear Rack for Touring - cycling tours,bicycle tours,travel reports,Italy,Spain,Austria,Slovenia,France,Switzerland,Germany, Europe

    Detailed packing list here:

    Packing List for Cycling Tours - cycling tours,bicycle tours,travel reports,Italy,Spain,Austria,Slovenia,France,Switzerland,Germany, Europe

    Ciao
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    well thought out kit there Peter, you are very exact in your detailing your bike parts and luggage. Must be a very nice bike to ride when you do the hotel, b+b type trips. I too really like a 50/39/26 crank setup, I find it works very well.

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    Yes, setup works well. In younger years I had a 52/39 crank. But now I am older than 40 ...

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    Well welcome to the forum, its a nice place to share ideas of all things bike, although most of carry a lot more than you!
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    circa 1980 Shogun 500 i have built up (just the seat post, shifters, cranks and pedals are orginal now i think)

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    Some last minute changes before i leave on a long ride next month
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    Have removed the fenders (good clearance for 32's, 35's just fit with them on)
    put on 700x35c schwalbe marathon plus tyres
    am swapping the chainrings from 32, 42, 52 to 28,34,42 (rear is 11-34)

    Fly to Inuvik in June and start cycling south to Argentina

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    Quote Originally Posted by tortron View Post
    Have removed the fenders (good clearance for 32's, 35's just fit with them on)
    put on 700x35c schwalbe marathon plus tyres
    am swapping the chainrings from 32, 42, 52 to 28,34,42 (rear is 11-34)

    Fly to Inuvik in June and start cycling south to Argentina

    Will have more details on crazyguyonabike.com: Author Info: Tori Collins once i leave
    quite an adventure, all the best.
    Very good idea to switch out the crank, I'm curious, why did you go with a 28, rather than a 24? I ride a fair amount on a bike with 42/32/22 and agree that a 42/34 is great, but a 24 would shift really well with the 10t diff to the 34, and your low gear would go from 22ish to 19ish, which would be a nice bit lower for real sloggy bits. Is it 7 speed? 6? Cant tell from the photos.
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by djb View Post
    quite an adventure, all the best.
    Very good idea to switch out the crank, I'm curious, why did you go with a 28, rather than a 24? I ride a fair amount on a bike with 42/32/22 and agree that a 42/34 is great, but a 24 would shift really well with the 10t diff to the 34, and your low gear would go from 22ish to 19ish, which would be a nice bit lower for real sloggy bits. Is it 7 speed? 6? Cant tell from the photos.
    cheers

    Has a 9sp cassette on there. The new gearing is really because that is what i had available

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    most likely that crank will be able to take easily a 24t, maybe even a 22t, so keep it in mind if (and perhaps when) you find you'd like a bit lower gearing. A 24t granny can be found for probably under $20 and its a super easy change, and most likely again you wouldnt have to touch the front derailleur, it would just work right off. Having ridden with a 19.5 gear inch low gear in pretty steep areas, I'd recommend making the switch, it wont affect your riding at all, but essentially it will give you one lower gear than what you have now. You'll be packing a good amount for a trip like this, so its entirely normal to want to have some lower gearing than the 28-34 combo.

    take a peek at the Sheldon Brown gear calculator, put in your wheel size, put "gear units" to "gear inches", then find your 11-34 9 speed cassette and it will show you your gearing in "gear inches".

    Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Gear Calculator

    Neat to see an actual number for your gearing, I've toured in hilly areas a fair amount, and in Latin America steepness of hills can be quite a lot steeper than in N America on the whole, so for me getting your low gear down a notch is a win-win, you might not use it often, but you'll be glad as heck for it sometimes.

    Like I said, if you dont do this now, any bike store along the route will have reasonably priced 24 and 22 grannys. Takes just a few mins to change it out.
    Will follow your trip on CG if I remember.

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    Yes, i plan to stock up on spares before i leave the US (cheaper than buying locally, and i should have a good amount of riding to come up with any changes i want)
    Have ridden all over new zealand with the higher gearing (and a road double, which was way too high for my knees in the south island). Plus im not above walking if i have to.
    Have built this bike up right from a bare frame, right from brazing the cantilever posts, to hand building the wheelset. So swapping anything out isnt a big problem

    All up my bike and everything im taking (i.e. if i were standing there nude and had no fuel, food, or water - now theres a good story) comes in at just under 30kg or about 66lbs. Approx half my weight (and nearly a perfect split between bike and gear)

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    Here are a few photos of my rig. I am a bag maker, and the photos were taken right after I finished the new bags. I will be riding this bike from San Fransisco to Boston via Seattle this summer. Wish me luck!





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