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Old 11-06-10, 07:42 AM   #1
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B67 and pedal form

I'm looking at saddles for a LHT I want to put together in the spring. I love my b17 on my road bike but would like to explore sprung options. The question I have is, does all the bouncing around from a sprung saddle effect pedal form much? Seems like each bounce would move you out of the fit zone a little. I'm really sensitive to fit, just a few mm the wrong way and I hurt my knees easily. I also tend to spin high cadence these days. Should someone like me stick to a rigid saddle? Unfortunately, There are no places near me where I can test one out, if I want one it's going to have to be ordered.
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I'm looking at saddles for a LHT I want to put together in the spring. I love my b17 on my road bike but would like to explore sprung options. The question I have is, does all the bouncing around from a sprung saddle effect pedal form much? Seems like each bounce would move you out of the fit zone a little. I'm really sensitive to fit, just a few mm the wrong way and I hurt my knees easily. I also tend to spin high cadence these days. Should someone like me stick to a rigid saddle? Unfortunately, There are no places near me where I can test one out, if I want one it's going to have to be ordered.
If you use the B-17 you would probably want the Flyer for the LHT. The B-67 is more for upright riding, think Raleigh Sports. I am about 215# and ride a B66/67 on all my upright bikes the only time I feel the springs is on a hard bump. I also use a Flyer on my drop bar touring bike, again the only time I notice the springs is when I don't manage to unweight the saddle in time and hit a hard bump. The springs on Brooks saddles are very stiff and serve mainly to take the edge off of bumps.

I have never had a problem with bobbing when riding on a sprung Brooks saddle.

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Aaron thanks for telling me how tight the springs are; I forgot to ask. I hover around 210-215 too so that's good news. Yeah I was thinking sprung b/c I plan to set it up really upright and I'll need to watch the lower back.
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The springs on my flyers and B67s are, like Wahoo says, very stiff.
Oddly the springs on my B33 you can feel give as you pedal.
However the B33 is a utility saddle and not really meant for something like a LHT.
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I use a champion flyer on my LHT and it's great....no bounce and just takes the edge off.....
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+1 on the Champion Flyer. Have one each of my touring bikes now. The springs are firm enough to avoid bouncing, but flexible enough to absorb road shock. BRILLIANT!
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I have B67's, B68's, and B72's on most of my bikes. I do not feel any give in the springs of the 67's or 72's. With back issues, I have taken to using Thudbuster seat posts to absorb road shocks. If I set one up a little soft, I CAN feel a little 'bobbing' while pedaling--usually uphill when I am trying to 'power up' the slope. The rest of the time, it's not noticeable. I use the long travel Thud, since there are two different elastomers that can be 'fine tuned' for rider weight and desired firmness.

I have also done cutouts on some, for 'soft tissue' reasons.
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I have B67's, B68's, and B72's on most of my bikes. I do not feel any give in the springs of the 67's or 72's. With back issues, I have taken to using Thudbuster seat posts to absorb road shocks. If I set one up a little soft, I CAN feel a little 'bobbing' while pedaling--usually uphill when I am trying to 'power up' the slope. The rest of the time, it's not noticeable. I use the long travel Thud, since there are two different elastomers that can be 'fine tuned' for rider weight and desired firmness.

I have also done cutouts on some, for 'soft tissue' reasons.
You do know that Brooks has the Imperial line?

I know a couple of people that use these and love them. I don't have one...yet.

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You do know that Brooks has the Imperial line?

I know a couple of people that use these and love them. I don't have one...yet.

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Yes, but I already had the 68's, 67's, and 72's, so I did a 'do-it-yourself' mod.
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"Yeah I was thinking sprung b/c I plan to set it up really upright and I'll need to watch the lower back. "

While your situation may be different, most people's back pain is related to the upright posture of our species. I have lower back pain, disc problems, and I am much more comfortable bending forward. At one point I figured I would need a thudbuster, but it turned out that for the most part I can ride without lower back pain. In fact at one point I had purchased a recumbent. These days I have neck pain and am not too sure how that will work out.
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maybe a thudbuster seatpost will do? #7 is going in for both.
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