Brooks Flyer and High End Cycling Shorts
Is it just me? While riding my Surly LHT, equipped with a Brooks Flyer, I think I am more comfortable wearing run of the mill chamois shorts vs. my higher end Specialized shorts with BG Pro RBX chamois? With the more expensive shorts I do get a little more uncomfortable while riding with the Brooks saddle, yet when on my road bike and minimal saddle I am perfectly happy. Much happier than with the less expensive shorts. But the less expensive apparel seems to be more comfortable on the Brooks. Am I imagining this? :wtf:
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It's hard to say. You are comparing the experience of riding on two different bicycles, so the saddle and shorts are just two factors in a complex comfort equation that includes (at least) the geometry of the bike, how it fits you, and how you are fitted to it. If your road bike's handlebars that are 1 inch below seat level, and your LHT handlebars are an inch lower, there may be less pressure on your bottom with the road bike.
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I'm not really understanding what you're trying to explain. Put simply, I would have thought the high end shorts would/should be more comfortable on my Brooks Flyer than the simple chamois of the less expensive shorts....but it appears this is not the case.
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It doesn't seem that surprising to me; leather saddles have been around since before bike shorts had pads (old natural chamois = thin), and I have found that leather saddles are comfortable with almost any shorts. The newer synthetic saddles and modern 3D shorts are designed to go together. I wouldn't be too concerned about it; be glad that you can be comfortable without dropping $60+ on a pair of shorts.
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Thinner chamois seems to work better with the Brooks for me too, so you're not alone. I've had some numbness with my more expensive shorts that I haven't had with my older, thinner ones. I guess it helps offset the price of a Brooks habit.
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Originally Posted by gorshkov
(Post 12126994)
It doesn't seem that surprising to me; leather saddles have been around since before bike shorts had pads (old natural chamois = thin), and I have found that leather saddles are comfortable with almost any shorts. The newer synthetic saddles and modern 3D shorts are designed to go together. I wouldn't be too concerned about it; be glad that you can be comfortable without dropping $60+ on a pair of shorts.
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Originally Posted by IanHelgesen
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Thinner chamois seems to work better with the Brooks for me too, so you're not alone. I've had some numbness with my more expensive shorts that I haven't had with my older, thinner ones. I guess it helps offset the price of a Brooks habit.
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Flyer is a wide saddle. A thicker short will result in more friction. One can alleviate the friction by re-positioning the saddle and/or lacing the flaps. A B17 narrow or B17 Imperial narrow should allow more leg movement. These saddles may work better with heavily padded short.
The flaps of a used B17/Flyer will open at least 1/4" when loaded. Lacing the flaps can significantly reduce wear on your short. I've managed to put a hole on my jean after about 700 miles on the Flyer. The B17 Imperial narrow doesn't have this problem. |
Originally Posted by IanHelgesen
(Post 12127141)
Thinner chamois seems to work better with the Brooks for me too, so you're not alone. I've had some numbness with my more expensive shorts that I haven't had with my older, thinner ones. I guess it helps offset the price of a Brooks habit.
Years went by, the MIT dropouts needed jobs, designed all the great saddles with synthetics and stuffed our crotches with pounds of synthetic gauze to make us all walk funny. Marc |
Originally Posted by Gus Riley
(Post 12125638)
Is it just me? While riding my Surly LHT, equipped with a Brooks Flyer, I think I am more comfortable wearing run of the mill chamois shorts vs. my higher end Specialized shorts with BG Pro RBX chamois?
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After paying more attention to the question over the last few days of riding and similar experiences here, I'm convinced that my less padded, cheaper riding shorts do a better job while riding on my Brooks than my more expensive "shaped" chamois shorts. So, the high end shorts are going into the same drawer where my Sidi road shoes are, only to come out when I ride my Aegis Aro Svelte. When the time comes to replace my less padded shorts, I'll look for the same thin padding properties, but also shorts that offer better leg compression beneifts.
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