I know I have posted way too many threads about frame sizing, so please forgive me in advance. If I had the money, believe me I would just have a custom frame made to fit me perfectly and never look back, but I am in my mid 20s, and money isn't exactly falling from the skies right now. Ok, now that I have that out of the way, here goes my question.
I have been eyeballing either a Gunnar Grand Tour, or a Rivendell Sam Hillborne, but both of these bikes cost more than I would like to spend right now. I just flipped through the newest issue of Adventure Cyclist(April 2011), and in the gallery picture that is always on the last page, I noticed that on of the cyclists is 6'6" and rode a 62cm Surly Long Haul Trucker! I had already decided that this bike was too small for me being 6'3.5" with a 93" pubic bone height and a 83" saddle height. Anyway, this leads me to believe that maybe I can get a 62cm Long Haul Trucker to work for me if I don't cut the steerer tube.
I checked out the geometry very closely on the 62cm frame with 700c wheels, and I just don't see how I can get the handlebars even, or higher than the saddle. With a 62 cm frame, my saddle will have to be approximately 20 cm above the top of the seat tube to achieve my desired saddle height. I checked the head tube length and then looked at the fork steer tube length, and if I leave it un-cut, it will extend 11 cm beyond the head tube. I know the head tube extends above the top tube quite a bit so maybe that adds another few centimeters. Lets say that gives me 13 centimeters of height above the top tube to the top of the steerer. Somehow, the get my bars even with the saddle, I would need to get another 7cm higher!!! Can this be true? If it is, that means a stem with no rise would leave the bars almost 7cm or 3 inches below the saddle. That is WAY to far below the saddle for a touring bike for me. I want my bars to be at least level, or above, and I don't think there is a stem out there that will even get me 3 inches of rise.
Sorry for the ridiculously long post, but I have had a terrible time getting bikes to fit me. Am I figuring out all of these measurements correctly, or am I missing something. If I can fit on an LHT, that would be terrific, as it is a great frame and would save me a heap of money. Please let me know if I am figuring this out correctly, or if I am missing something important.