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Old 05-03-11, 05:12 PM   #1
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Windsor Tourist: What Fenders and Racks to get?

Hello!

Today, I purchased a Windsor Tourist, couldn't pass up the deal, new in box, correct size and $210.00 off list price, (Portland CL had it). I just got back into Bicycling after being out for 20+ years, I've been riding a Mt Bike to get back into shape and now with the warmer weather here I'm ready to get a Touring bike ready for 1 and 2 day trips with hopefully a week or two run towards the end of summer.

Looking for recommendations on Fenders, Racks and any upgrade ideas.

This is my first touring bike so any and all help is greatly appreciated.


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Old 05-03-11, 08:08 PM   #2
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I got the planet bike hardcore road fenders for mine http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7048.html . Get rid of the cheesy pedals and get some of what ever your choice for an upgrade would be. I use ratrap style pedals with mini toeclips. I got the rims trued since they were a bit off and then installed some koolstop pads. Since I have back and neck issues I installed an adjustable stem which really helped. After a couple of flats I got some Specialized Armadillo tires for it. I really like them and in spite of what some people write about them for me they roll very well. I added this rack in the rear its a lot nicer than the item supplied with the bike http://www.bikeparts.com/search_resu...p?id=BPC357013 although the stock item is pretty good for commuting its not nearly as robust as the Civia, if you have the coinage you can step up to a Tubus rack. Add some other cool stuff like the Magicshine head and tailight and a Brooks saddle (optional of course) Oh yeah I added a little bag that mounts on the toptube and around the stem with a flap over it so I have my ID badge ready to show the guard in the morning to get in the gate at work. These items really didn't cost me too much since I picked most of them up on sale and had the Brooks the the little stem/toptube mount bag. I love my Tourist I'm using it for my commuter and its been stellar. Check the bearing and the headset and the bottom bracket to make sure there is enough grease in there. Mine was fine since after riding it around the block I could see the grease starting to ooze out. I did adjust the hub cones since the factor had a bit too much preload on them and the wheels didn't roll as well as they should have but after that I can put it up on the bike stand and the roll forever it seems. Sorry to rattle on but I kept thinking of little things I thought might make your experience better. After I got mine all sorted out I took it to my LBS and they were more than happy to give it a once over to see if I forgot anthing, I didn't and the guy that took it around the block for a test ride gave it a big thumbs up. Hope you like yours as much as I like mine. Here is mine in commute mode.
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Old 05-03-11, 08:56 PM   #3
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racks, there are numerous 15-30 dollar rear racks that work perfectly fine. Ditto for fenders, go with a good brand name like Planet Bike, Cascade and they will be fine too.
Lots of good reasonably priced panniers out there too, no need to get expensive ones as you may not really get into touring, but good ones will still be handy for any commuting.
Listen to your bum for seats, and go with what posterior tells you after a while.

really, get the bike looked over by a bike store to check the adjustments of bearings, spokes etc, and then have fun on it. If you find you enjoy riding and do indeed want to tour a bit, then put your money into perhaps stuff you dont own already, tent, campmats etc etc.

that bike will be a perfectly good bike for touring, and you will see if you like biking and/or touring as teh summer goes along, and then you can start figuring out what you need as you go. Just dont get caught up in "having" to have top level expensive stuff, you will enjoy it all just as much with reasonabley priced doodads.
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Agreed for sure thats why I went for the Civia rack over the Tubus and the Axiom Panniers that were a lot less than the Ortliebs but not as big but perfect for my need right now. The fenders are relatively inexpensive so for a few wisely chosen deals you can outfit this bike really nice and its gonna be plenty sturdy. I find this bike to really want to get going and can generally cruise home at between 14 to 18 mph depending on how tired I am and which way the wind is blowing.
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Thanks for the great information Stringbreaker and djb. My LBS will do a once over when I'm done. How are SKS Longboard fenders? The LBS here has a set of them they recommend.

Thanks again for all the information.

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I like Planet Bike or Cascade fenders I have both on my two bicycles.And your new bicycle is nice looking have fun riding it.
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I like Planet Bike or Cascade fenders I have both on my two bicycles.And your new bicycle is nice looking have fun riding it.
Planet Bike Cascadia here too. I like the greater coverage vs PB's other models. I recently saw that SKS has a similar fender: Longboard I think.
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I use VO fenders on my touring bike because they are longer and provide better coverage. I think theSKS longboards are close if you want plastic.

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Our windsors worked out well for us. The original rear rack is kind of flimsy, but one of my Trans America companions used it without incident. The other two of us used the Blackburn EX-1. Front racks, we used either Nashbar or Performance clones of the old Blackburn low rider. Both were fine, but I liked the Performance one a bit better.

We used the Planet Bike 700c Hardcore Fender in 35mm width and had no complaints with them.

Keep an eye on spoke tension to avoid wheel problems. Also consider a crank that will allow lower gearing. We went with the the Sugino XD600 and all eventually replaced the 26T inner ring with a 24T one. Other that that and some spd pedals we used the bikes pretty much without modification.

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Bad experience with blackburn front lowriders

I bought the Blackburn FL-1 Front Lowrider Front Bike Rack because it was cheap, it had a stabilizing bar, and it was a lowrider rack. But it wasn't compatible with my Orlieb or Arkel panniers. It has a weird metal plate under the top bar, so the panniers couldn't hold onto the bar. So, stay away from this rack if you want panniers with a similar attachment system to Ortlieb or Arkel.

My full review is on my blog, here.

I've been using a planet bike rack on the rear for the past few months, riding around Denver and it seems to work fine. It's lightweight enough and was really cheap ($30). I wish Planet Bike made a front rack.
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I think that plate is on the Blackburn Low Rider to mount the C-Clamp if you do not have a fork braze on. Perhaps it can be modified (cut-away) to allow the latching mechanism on some panniers to fit. My plate has holes in it, that allow the detent pins to pass through and latch my Tailwind panniers in. Fidn someone with one and check it out, it might work out for you.
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Tubus, racks that you would keep when you buy the next, upgrade, bike.
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Again thanks everyone. Really enjoying this forum. So far I have fenders on order, next is a Brooks seat, peddals, rack then panniers, for now I have tons of small bags that I can use on the rear fine, I need to head to a larger LBS and get some tools and such to carry all the time. Does anyone use there iPhone? I'm a bit concerned about road abuse on it, this is my work phone also. I have a great Garmin GPSmap 60Csx that has done me good for the last few years.
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I don't have a WT but they look like a great bike! Congrats on your purchase and I'm sure you'll have many happy miles with it. Looks like you got a great deal too.

I use Delta Sherpa or Mega racks on my touring and commuter bikes. They have held up well with panniers full of groceries or touring gear. I use Jandd panniers for touring and old Novara panniers for commuting. I use Blackburn lowrider front racks also.

I have not tried Nashbar panniers (because I have too many panniers already!) but they look pretty good for the price especially when they go on sale.
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Tubus, racks that you would keep when you buy the next, upgrade, bike.
They have the added advantage of being stiffer than inexpensive aluminum rod racks. The extra stiffness helps handling.
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I only have one rear rack and it works for me. Jandd Expedition
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You'll are awesome with information. Brooks B-17 just got added to my order with the fenders. We got a week of rain on the way so those fenders can't get here soon enough.

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I'm going to head to REI this weekend and take a look at them.
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Where in Washington are you located?
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Here is some photos of the Tourist taken today while out riding. I was not riding on grass, this is just off the road so I could stand it up.





I'll have the Fenders and Brooks B-17 this week, I want to get some Lone Peak Panniers next. All said, I'm very very happy with this bike.

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How are your wheels for true? Mine were off just enough so adjusting the brakes was nearly impossible. After my LBS got them trued up they have been fine and the brakes were easily adjusted.
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I went with Soma Fabrications for the fenders on my Tourist - http://www.somafab.com/eurotripfenders.html
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My tires were true, the LBS did have to tune the rear derailleur but that was it. I tuned it in the best I could then took it in for them to look over it and tune it better. The only real problem I had was the rear brake cable was routed wrong around the left cable for the front derailleur, it has to be correct for me, I spent some time routing those correct, oh and the LBS reset the rear brake because they set it to low. I never caught that, but I took it to him on Friday and today was the first day without rain, next two days should be good for riding, then Wednesday I should have the fenders in.
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I went with Soma Fabrications for the fenders on my Tourist - http://www.somafab.com/eurotripfenders.html
I went with Planet Bike Cascadia 700c Hybrid/Tour Black Fender, 7056-5, they are not here yet but when I get them I'll take some more pics and post them. The ones you have look nice. I kinda wanted to run a orange fender.
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