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Old 05-05-11, 09:51 AM   #1
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Pedals for Touring

I searched for a thread on this, did not see one?
I am looking for the opinions of riders who haul heavy loads so long that at the end of the day each foot must be lifted from the pedal by hand as legs are petered out.
I meet many who prefer platform pedals while touring.
Most the guys I see who use clip-less are new to load hauling. Clip-less or Not..........I like both.
I have some issues with platforms,,,,and some with clip-less.
Clip-less means extra shoes,,,,,I been walking in my shoes with cleats and my feet are NOT happy.
My question is this, At the end of the hard day, (Old fat guy here)
Which pedal will make my legs work harder? With heavy loads.
Which pedal is the most fuel efficient?
Do you have any concerns about safety when you try to get off the bike after a l o n g l o n g day? You know, getting un-clipped,,,,,,,,

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Old 05-05-11, 10:11 AM   #2
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I just switched to BMX platforms with straps (retrogression) for my touring bike, and I like them so much I might buy a pair for my touring bike. Currently I have MKS touring pedals with clips and straps. Personally I like using a trail running shoe when touring so I don't have to carry an extra pair of non-cycling shoes and I can use them for hiking. This showed a benefit when I met some other tourists at jenny lake who wanted to hike, but they only had clipless mountain bike shoes and flip flops. It was sad to leave them behind to stroll around the lake while I hiked in the backcountry.
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Shimano PDA530 or PDM324. Both feature platform on one side and SPD cleat on the other. As these are mountian cleats you can get shoes or sandals which are more comfortable to walk in.
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Old 05-05-11, 10:23 AM   #4
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I use low cost BMX platforms on my Surly LHT and Bike Friday NWT touring bikes. They work great and it's so nice to be able to wear street shoes on tour.
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Clip-less means extra shoes,,,,,
No it doesn't. There are plenty of clipless shoes that are comfortable and easy to walk in.
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I've toured with both. I like the simplicity of platforms, but am willing to put up with the slightly more complicated clipless system just because pedaling seems more efficient. That may be due to the stiffer soles on my biking shoes, but I also like my foot being in the exact same position on the pedal every time. I usually bring sandals for walking around, but if I wanted to do a hike or something I'd just remove the (recessed) cleats from my biking shoes.

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Do you have any concerns about safety when you try to get off the bike after a l o n g l o n g day? You know, getting un-clipped,,,,,,,,
Nope. Never. I keep the adjustment pretty loose anyway and have never had a problem getting un-clipped.

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Old 05-05-11, 11:12 AM   #7
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I'd second the recommendation for Shimano combi pedals. With the spd cleat system, it's quite comfortable to walk around (the cleats are recessed), and when I want to adjust position, I can just flip the pedals over. For riding around town, I jump aboard with flipflops or whatever I have on.
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No it doesn't. There are plenty of clipless shoes that are comfortable and easy to walk in.
Comfortable and easy to walk in around the store maybe. How easy and comfortable would they be on a 10 mile hike?
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Do you have any concerns about safety when you try to get off the bike after a l o n g l o n g day? You know, getting un-clipped,,,,,,,,
Really?? I can't imagine being to tired to unclip.
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I use the spd combo pedals too. While touring I always bring an extra pair of shoes: hiking shoes. A lot of people don't like the extra weight/bulk or don't mind walking around a camp site with stiff-soled cleats, but I like to have a dry pair of shoes on deck anyway. My wife does the same, but swears by flip-flops - they are lighter and less bulky, I'll give her that.

There are some safety benefits. Sometimes, especially in cities where traffic is getting weird, I'll often unclip one foot and use the platform. Conversely, I feel way safer being clipped in while descending in rough terrain - I'm always afraid my feet are going to bounce off the pedals, again. In general, having the option allows you to do whatever feels safer at any given moment.
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My favorite touring pedal is the old SPD-compatible Dura Ace pedal. Very solid connection and great float with the M71 cleat and it allows you to use Mtb-shoes that are good for walking.
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Do you have any concerns about safety when you try to get off the bike after a l o n g l o n g day? You know, getting un-clipped,,,,,,,,
I had a bad crash caused by a badly balanced load combined with clipless pedals. My load was heavier on my weak-unclipping side (I have trouble getting my left foot out sometimes), and when I slowed down and had my right foot out, my bike toppled to the left. I hit a bench pretty hard on my upper arm, and could have been much more serious if I'd been a few inches further away (and had hit my head or neck instead).

Since then I've learned to be very cautious with load balancing, and have loosened my left pedal to the point where a sufficiently sharp pull upwards can free my foot.
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I am a long time user of clip-less pedals but have recently (last summer) starting using platform pedals on my commuter/touring bike. I have to say that I LOVE them and don't really think they slow me down or negatively affect my pedaling in any way. I love being able to walk around in my sandals, shoes, whatever I choose to wear. I did a short tour last fall wearing nothing but my keen sandals and was in heaven because of it. I think I was also more comfortable both on and off the bike. It felt free-ing. I am now so sold on simple platform pedals that I am seriously considering switching over my lightweight road bike too.
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Comfortable and easy to walk in around the store maybe. How easy and comfortable would they be on a 10 mile hike?
Probably more so than normal street shoes - whatever that means. Do you really tour with hiking boots on the chance that you'll do a ten mile hike? Frankly, I don't see myself spending 6 hours in the saddle and then an additional 3 hours hiking.

Do you think fly fishermen should tour wearing waders?

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Probably more so than normal street shoes - whatever that means. Do you really tour with hiking boots on the chance that you'll do a ten mile hike? Frankly, I don't see myself spending 6 hours in the saddle and then an additional 3 hours hiking.
If all you ever do is pedal, then you're set! When I rode down the Pacific coast, I took a day off to visit Hearst Castle. I did every tour they offered, which amounted to 6+ miles of walking. I could easily see taking a day off from biking to hike through a national park, state park, national monument, etc.

FWIW, the bicycling shoes I wore (Shimano MT-31) were actually better than I'd expected for walking around Hearst Castle. I removed the cleats, to avoid scratching anything, and it actually made the shoes walk quite a bit better...
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Old 05-05-11, 06:20 PM   #16
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Probably more so than normal street shoes - whatever that means. Do you really tour with hiking boots on the chance that you'll do a ten mile hike? Frankly, I don't see myself spending 6 hours in the saddle and then an additional 3 hours hiking.

Do you think fly fishermen should tour wearing waders?

No, as I said above I use trail running shoes. Of course I do not bike all day and then hike, but I think that is obvious. Days off are for hiking.
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I tour with shimano PD A530 pedals. Clip on one side, platform on others. I wear cycling sandals to ride and walk in. I carry a light pair of crocs for camp shoes. Works fine for me.
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I just finished riding a metric century using MKS Sylvan Touring pedals, equipped with Power Grips straps. I did the ride while wearing Keen sandals.
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Probably more so than normal street shoes - whatever that means. Do you really tour with hiking boots on the chance that you'll do a ten mile hike? Frankly, I don't see myself spending 6 hours in the saddle and then an additional 3 hours hiking.

Do you think fly fishermen should tour wearing waders?
Not long ago I bought a pair of Merrell Tawas water shoes for kayaking and wade fishing. It turns out that they're great bike shoes too: stiff enough for pedalling, comfy and supportive on the trail and extremely light and well ventilated. They would be my first choice for a warm-weather tour if I wanted to take only one pair of shoes.
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Most tours I am on the bike most of the day most days. I do short hikes along the way usually only a couple miles at a time. I could do that in my bike shoes just fine, but take Crocs for a change of footwear.

That said we spent a week in Yosemite on one tour and it was worth having trail runners there since we were hiking every day for a week. We bought a pair there and carried them for the remaining 5 days of the tour. We might have mailed them home if we had been going on longer.
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I like platform pedals.Lately I have been wearing these:
Chrome cycling shoes.Love them.They have clipless versions also.

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Love the Chromes...I might have to give those a try.

Nice thing about touring is there is no right or wrong way to do...whatever makes you happy.

Keep lovin' those platforms.
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Thank you all for your comments, I been looking at lots of stuff, I find not all platforms are the same.
I found these Specialized Sanoma, they feel pretty good walking, for a bike shoe. Back five years ago I broke a chain, too bad to fix it, had to push the ride all the way home, I know it sounds weird but I have a hard time getting my foot where I like it with platforms,,,I just feel more comfortable clipped in. But I got lots more miles in on platforms than clip-less. I tried the toe strap thing, my coordination is not that good,

And yes once I went too long without food or drink, I could not unclip, and fell over and scratched my brake lever.
Once we stopped for lunch and my butt was stuck to the ground, I couldn't get up,,,,once I did I got back in saddle and we climbed another couple thousand feet,,
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I have no idea what system is most efficient over all, however I prefer platform pedals. Simple, and can use any type of shoe. I can place my foot at any position at any angle. I am currently using a platform called FORTE , they are wide and secure
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