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Old 06-01-11, 09:10 PM   #1
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S24O, how far do you travel for one?

Hoping to get in a overnighter next week and got to wondering how far do people usually go for an overnighter? I have been going about 50 miles each way when I do one, give or take a few miles.
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Depends. So far the range is 2 to 34 miles.
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I'll be interested in the answers to this one. The whole S24O thing kind of baffles me.

Not knocking them for those who enjoy these mini tours, but personally I don't have any desire to carry a bunch of gear to ride within a days ride of home. So far my shortest tour is 11 days and I don't have any real desire to go shorter.
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I've gone between 20 and 90 miles. However, very few of mine are ever "sub-24 hours." Heading out on Saturday morning and getting home Sunday evening, puts it closer to 36 hours.
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Don't know if it counts as a tour, but quite often in summer I'll take tent, sleeping bag some food and water and ride the 20 miles to the coast after a days work (5 p.m)... An earlyish start and I'll be back at work 8 a.m the next morning. Most refreshing, especially if the day starts with a skinny dip in the sea

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What or who is S24O?
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Source: http://anadventurecalledbicycling.bl...t-to-s240.html

An S240 ("Es-Two-Four-Oh") is a sub-24-hour bike trip, or bike camping. The term was coined by the folks at Rivendell-- so I will let them explain it:

Bike camping and bike touring are alike enough to require the same kind of gear, but bike touring emphasizes the journey, and you stop only so you can refresh yourself and do it again the next day. Bike camping emphasizes the destination and what you do once you get there, and you just happen to get there on a bike.

The shortness is key, and the concept is simple: You leave in the afternoon or evening in time to get to your camp while there's still enough light to set up the tent. Then you cook, eat, talk, go to bed, and ride home the next morning.

https://www.adventurecycling.org/res...rsen_S240s.pdf


ergo S240 = "overnighter" but sounds much hipper.. I put S240 into the Rivendell search engine, but got no results. I thought they were too retro-grouch to coin hip new terms? Maybe they thought so too.

edit: Machka, so it's like a 24 hour Brevet except you spend most of the time sitting somewhere watching the sun go down and drinking wine before going to sleep

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So like ... a short tour, as talked about in the Short Tours thread? http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ur-Short-Tours


Like this tour Rowan and I did in 2006 ... http://www.machka.net/short_tours/2006_PineLake.htm
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S24O is an example of Rivendell trying just a bit too hard. The term is unwieldy, just like most of the new bikes they are designing. What's wrong with overnighter?
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It's a sub-24-hour outing. I think it may have been coined by Grant Peterson at Rivendell. He writes about them on his site (rivbike.com). I think the attraction depends to an extent on where you live. If you're within a convenient ride from some great public open space, they're attractive. We're fortunate to have a number of options. A while back, somebody (affiliated with Rivendell?) posted a video about a great s240 from San Francisco to the Marin headlands and back. You might search for it.
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So does a sub-24-hour outing also include a day ride?


When I first saw the term, I thought it was a brand of Surly ... you know how the Giant has the OCR3, I thought it was the Surly S24O or something like that.
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I did 9 miles out to the Los Angeles forest. That was far enough to remove me from the sights, smells, and sounds of the valley cities below. I think you can just go far enough to feel tired and out of your comfort zone. It's just like an extended day ride except you camp out.
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S24O is an example of Rivendell trying just a bit too hard. The term is unwieldy, just like most of the new bikes they are designing. What's wrong with overnighter?
I pronounce it sub 24 hour. The letters and numbers are kind of a mouthful. Regardless, I don't think it matters. The point is to travel by bike. Not everyone has the sand to take off for 11 days for starters.
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Tomorrow I am "traveling" 1.5 hours by train to ride 60 miles into the mountains to camp for a night. It will be over 24 hours, so I guess we can call it a "short tour" or "overnighter" or "i need to get the hell out of the city for a nighter"
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I'll be interested in the answers to this one. The whole S24O thing kind of baffles me.

Not knocking them for those who enjoy these mini tours, but personally I don't have any desire to carry a bunch of gear to ride within a days ride of home. So far my shortest tour is 11 days and I don't have any real desire to go shorter.
I am lucky to be able to string 3 days off together at a single time. Seldom get full weekends off either.

My S24O's seem to run in the 40 mile range.

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I'll be interested in the answers to this one. The whole S24O thing kind of baffles me.

Not knocking them for those who enjoy these mini tours, but personally I don't have any desire to carry a bunch of gear to ride within a days ride of home. So far my shortest tour is 11 days and I don't have any real desire to go shorter.
lol I can't remember the last time I had 11 days off work.
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I'll be interested in the answers to this one. The whole S24O thing kind of baffles me.

Not knocking them for those who enjoy these mini tours, but personally I don't have any desire to carry a bunch of gear to ride within a days ride of home. So far my shortest tour is 11 days and I don't have any real desire to go shorter.
I've got a mortgage, a couple of young kids, a full time job... An overnighter is about the closest I'm going to get to a tour for the foreseeable future.

I spend a lot of time with the local Rivendell bunch, and while the Grant obsession makes me giggle a bit (I can always tell what's in the newsletter by going to a club ride. Grant says seersucker makes a comfortable cycling jersey and the next ride looks like a page from the Brooks Bros. catalog) they're generally a great bunch of guys who just love to ride. They put together the occasional S24O and always seem to have a great time.
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Doesn't really matter much how far, but 40-50 miles is probably average. Just whatever you feel like. The point is to load up, ride somewhere, and spend the night. A break in the routine between tours.

I usually don't ride from home, preferring to load all into my truck and drive somewhere I haven't been before. Park and ride off for a day or two on a roundabout.

Takes a couple of hours to assemble my gear into a touring package.
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I do it all the time.Leave Sat. morning and come back Sun. afternoon.I'll ride from L.A. to San Clemente SB or to Leo Carrillo SB.About 50 miles 1 way.

I'd sure like to know what "L.A. Forest" is 9 miles from El Monte?

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I do it all the time.Leave Sat. morning and come back Sun. afternoon.I'll ride from L.A. to San Clemente SB or to Leo Carrillo SB.About 50 miles 1 way.

I'd sure like to know what "L.A. Forest" is 9 miles from El Monte?
If you google map, the Los Angeles National Forest, you'll see the San Gabriel Valley south of it. El Monte is part of the SGV. El Monte, Arcadia, Arcadia Highlands and there you go...the foothills. There's also an entrance from Azusa through the 39 that's easier. Do you really think there are no mountains around the greater Los Angeles area? Chantry Flats is 9 miles up Santa Anita, just up the whole way.

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I don't consider Whittier Hills exactly mountains,but whatever.Next time you ride to Crystal Lake or the trail head at East Fork,or ride up to HWY 2,those are mountains.Chantry Flats is about 13-14 miles from El Monte(Valley/Rosemead) and almost 20 miles from Downey.

Still sounds like fun....I just never thought about camping in the local hills,stealth camping at Legg Lake,Turnbull Canyon,Chantry Flats,Fish Canyon,Santa Susana Canyon or something....I have to run that though a couple times....

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