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Old 12-21-11, 01:07 PM   #1
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A good set of Panniers

Looking to get a goog set of panniers for the back and the front not to big and waterproof any suggestions george12345
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Old 12-21-11, 01:15 PM   #2
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Ortlieb back and front rollers are great: fully waterproof, tough, hook onto the rack in seconds and are removed in no time by pulling the handle. Not very expensive either, same price and quality class as Vaude. They're used by many around the world tourers.

I use mine for travelling as well as for shopping etc., very handy!
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Hi Lasse I don't like the Ortlieb I know they are used big time by a lot tourers the thing I don't like when you need something out you have to pull everything out of the bag for sure what you will be looking for will be at the bottom every small gets lost in there, I would like Panniers with outside pockets., even more handy!
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Old 12-21-11, 01:55 PM   #4
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With outside pockets; not necessarily waterproof. Learn how to pack properly, get a really waterproof set of panniers; you're golden.
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Hi Davet Iv been packing my panniers for over 40 years, you know yourself, it really doesn’t matter how well you pack a bag the small stuff falls to the bottom I just was wondering did onyone know of a good set of panniers with pockets that is waterproof
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I'll follow this thread. I don't know of any that both have pockets and are waterproof. I opted for the with pockets/not waterproof selection myself and use waterproof stuff sacks (and/or trash compactor bags) inside.
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Check at Nashbar for waterproof and inexpensive, least in the short term. Axiom also makes a line of waterproof panniers. Ortliebs are the gold standard, and can easily be sold if touring turns out not to be your 'thing.' Be like renting them.
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Arkel are among the best along with Lone Peak, Jannd is bad either, but stitching puts holes in the fabric and holes let water in. If you want water proof it is pretty much going to be the Ortliebs. I use ditty bags to keep my stuff sorted, usually color coded. I have had pocket panniers (Kirkland and Karimor) in the past and found the pockets frustrating, things that I wanted in the pocket wouldn't fit in the pocket that I wanted it in. If you do use the pocket panniers, spring for the rain covers.

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Thanks for all the suggestions the thing is I really don't like Ortliebs I think that if it rains (which it probably will knowing the weather in Ireland) the chances are by the time you get into a Ortliebs pannier you will get soaked anyway, and after the soaking there is no where to put the wet gear and everything ends up yep that right wet
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Arkel panniers are incredible. Ortliebs are popular and have a good reputation but for me, Arkel is the best. I have their recumbent RT-60's and the TailRider trunk bag for day trips. I have not used them as much as I wish but when you see how well they are made it's more than obvious they have done everything possible to be done with a pannier. Lots of compartments, light weight, waterproof zips, reinforcement where it counts, easy mount/dismount with carrying handles and removeable shoulder straps (sold separately)...the works.

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geroge i live in ireland and never have problems getting into my ortliebs. but what about carradice have you looked at them really class panniers.
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Thanks lads the Arkel panniers sound really good Scrapser I have heard of them just think they might be a little big, I also looked at the carradice antokelly not to keen on them I was looking at Altura Dryline 32 Panniers-32L SET do anyone know about Altura
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How many compartments would you like?

You can add external pockets (1.8L) to the Ortliebs and the Back Rollers have an inside mesh pocket for small stuff as well as a larger compartment against the back (behind the mesh pocket).
I keep my rain jacket either on top of the rack under a strap or on top of everything else in the bag, a jacket really doesn't sink down as fast as a pocket knife (which I put in the mesh bag). Also anything big like sleeping bag, tent, cook set, sweater is easily found. They're only 20L each so it's much easier than a single compartment lightweight backpack.
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antokelly what do you do with all the wet gear, do you put it back in the ortlieb, and when you put it back in the ortlieb, what happens
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There's also an add on mesh bag that you install on the outside for the Ortliebs, in case you want to store wet gear
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Lasse I don't like the way you have to bolt on the extra pockets to the ortlieb
what about the socks and the under ware when they get wet where do you put them do you strap them on top to, it just I like to keep a little free pocket when the weather gets better to put my wet gear, away from the dry gear, then the dry gear stays DRY
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Yeah, I'm not sold on the bolting extra bags on it either. There certainly are other good bags on the market too though
Carradice has a good name, especially if you like classic canvas bags, they look very nice imo. Vaude is also an option, but is very much like Ortlieb.
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with all these add ons on the ortliebs they are getting very costly
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what about Altura Lasse what do you think
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Antokelly what part of Ireland do you come from
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antokelly what part of Ireland do you come from
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Lasse I don't like the way you have to bolt on the extra pockets to the ortlieb
what about the socks and the under ware when they get wet where do you put them do you strap them on top to, it just I like to keep a little free pocket when the weather gets better to put my wet gear, away from the dry gear, then the dry gear stays DRY
This is where the fun part starts. You have to improvise. Rig up your own solutions. I think it's impossible to satisfy every little scenario when you buy a commercial solution. For wet clothes I have a mesh laundry bag which I tie to my rack. I've even read a guy who used an onion sack to do the same thing.
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Have you been to the Arkel website? They make a range of sizes for DF, recumbents, and trikes. Not trying to push the Arkels on you...you're doing the research which these days is a crime not to with all the information available.
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I haven't heard of Altura before. Specs of their bags look fine. First reviews I found also look positive. And at least some of their bags also have a secondary compartment.

So, you're after panniers that are waterproof, not too big (20L each or smaller?), with at least one extra pocket and also a non-waterproof (preferably mesh) extra pocket on the outside for drying clothes, right?
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Scrapser I have a set of Dirt Monkeys panniers 2 on the front and 2 on the back 2 pocket on each pannier the problem is my Dirt Monkeys panniers are kput they have done over 35000 miles, I no that panniers when looked after can do a life time, but these where my first set of panniers and only cost me 30$ for the four and are not made anymore, I have looked at the arkel web and I might go down that road
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