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Old 02-16-12, 08:38 AM   #1
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Roubaix or long haul trucker

I need some advice from touring rides. Here is my dilema. I have a specialized roubaix and love it. I have done century rides with no issues. Heres my issue. I am going to particpate in a charity ride that will be about 500 miles in a week. Its across the country and i am thinking about getting a surly lht because of the durability as i will need to ship the bike and it should be more comfortable and.... I will be riding with slower riders than me and i wont need the speed. I wont need to have the bike loaded down as well have a chase vehicle. What do you think? Do you recommend any other options? Should i just stick to my beloved roubaix?
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How about a Surly Cross Check? It's not as heavy as an LHT, and is a good do-all bike. It can do road riding, light to medium weight touring, cyclo cross, etc. The LHT is great at being stable with heavy loads, but unloaded you might not be impressed. If this is a loaded tour the LHT is a good choice, but if it's supported, the Cross Check might be better. However, if it's a supported tour, what would be the problem with the Roubaix? I don't think the frame will get damaged during shipping and if a component gets bent, it'll get bent on one of the Surly bikes as well.
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Old 02-16-12, 08:55 AM   #5
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For a single ride, or if all you'll be doing is supported rides, there's no need for another bike. You might see if some wider tires will fit in your Specialized to help soak up the bumps over a multi day trip, but even that's optional.

Reasonable reasons to get a new bike include:
1. You want to try loaded touring.
2. You want a new bike.
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Old 02-16-12, 09:03 AM   #6
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When I ride loaded with slower riders I take 26" converted hardtail MTB. I'll ride more upright, take in the view. But, Roubaix to a LHT...I wouldn't do it unless you really want a dedicated road bike tourer and tweak your Roubaix for fast rides only.
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If I owned a carbon framed wonder bike with brifters and wanted a more durable bike for some long distance riding with a steel frame, I would first consider staying with the same type of shifters that I already am comfortable with. Thus, I would start looking at bikes with brifters. In that regard, I would consider a Windsor Tourist. I actually have never seen one, but it has had favorable comments on this forum. And the price is certainly right. It is similar to older Fuji Touring bikes and I have looked at those pretty closely.
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm

I have a LHT, so I am not suggesting that you don't get it. But, the two bikes you are comparing are very different from each other and I wonder if you would really be happy with it?
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I have a Windsor Tourist and can recommend it. The Nashbar Touring bike uses the same Fuji supplied frame as the Windsor, but comes with 3x10 Shimano 105 for $750: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...2_10000_202613

I would also use the Roubaix for supported touring, however. The only reason to use an alternate steel touring bike is if gravel roads are included or to avoid shipping damage to the Roubaix.
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Honestly the Roubaix is near ideal for the kind of actual riding you're describing. For the money you can probably just get the bike shipped fully insured. On the ride itself, you're supported, so in the odd chance that something breaks there's the sag wagon. I have a long haul trucker and the idea of riding it in a supported ride of that distance when I had access to a Roubaix (I rode one the other week, was pretty sweet) isn't personally appealing. It would of course work just fine, though. I would only really recommend the LHT if your goals at some point involve fairly substantial loads; there are better bikes for other purposes.
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Old 02-16-12, 10:49 AM   #10
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I need some advice from touring rides. Here is my dilema. I have a specialized roubaix and love it. I have done century rides with no issues. Heres my issue. I am going to particpate in a charity ride that will be about 500 miles in a week. Its across the country and i am thinking about getting a surly lht because of the durability as i will need to ship the bike and it should be more comfortable and.... I will be riding with slower riders than me and i wont need the speed. I wont need to have the bike loaded down as well have a chase vehicle. What do you think? Do you recommend any other options? Should i just stick to my beloved roubaix?
I own a Cervelo RS, which is similar to the Roubaix in terms of geometry and ride quality. I also own a dedicated touring bike. If I were in your situation, I wouldn't even think about riding the touring bike! My Cervelo is all-day comfortable, just like the touring bike. Sounds like you don't need to carry luggage, which is the only real advantage a touring bike has over something like the Roubaix or RS. Much cheaper to ship your bike across the country and back than to buy a brand-new LHT and ship it across the country...
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If you want to slow your Roubaix down a bit, fit wider tyres. No need to buy an expedition touring bike for a fully supported tour.
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Another vote for riding the Roubaix. I find my Trek 520 is less comfortable than my road bike if it's not loaded down with bags - it's a pretty stiff ride. And you don't need a heavy bike to slow you down - either just slow down, or ride fast/hammer and be the first one back in camp with a cold beer.
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If you really feel the need to drop a grand for no real reason, you can just send it to me.
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Old 02-16-12, 11:07 AM   #14
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tow a bike trailer with your plastic-composite wonder bike ..
then all you add to the bike, is a handle bar bag, for snacking while you ride.
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Old 02-16-12, 11:21 AM   #15
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Why would you buy a new bike? Yours would fit the demands of the ride perfect, assuming it is in good working order you should have no concerns of durability. If you want to make it a little more comfortable you can always just fit wider and more durable tires. One thing I would consider, if you have some superlight high $$ race wheels on there you can build a simple and durable wheelset for the tour like open pro/ultegra combo but if you have the stock wheels they are more than capable of doing this ride, then some.
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One thing to consider, if you really want to spend money before the tour, you can preemptively replace the drive train but even that would probably be wasteful unless you have a lot of miles on your current stuff, in that case, maybe start with a fresh chain?
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Stick with the Roubaix.
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Makes no sense to get a heavy touring bike designed for carrying heavy loads just so you can ride it unloaded on a supported tour unless you're thinking of getting a heavy loaded touring bike for loaded tours down the line and this is a shakedown ride.
Riding 70+ miles a day doesn't require speed, it only requires sitting on the bike for 6 or so hours. There are a lot of other bikes I'd pick for unloaded riding than a LHT. I wouldn't think of it as more comfortable unless you're seeking a slower handling bike. Can you get 28mm tires on a Roubaix? That'll get you some comfort. Fatter supple tires will be comfy more than a heavy bike with heavy wheels and tires.

If you're concerned about the Roubaix making it just pack it well and if it has racing wheels change them out for training wheels. Is it the logistics of packing and shipping that are a challenge?

If you're greatest concern is protecting the Roubaix for the least amount of money AND getting another bike just for this kind of ride how about this:

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...e_xi_steel.htm

replace the 25mm Kendas with 33mm Panaracer Jack Brown tires. It looks like the fork has room, can't tell about the chainstays whether a fatter tire will fit there.

Sounds like you need a beater road bike that can take cushy tires and not a heavy duty touring bike. An old beater road bike made with 531 tubing will still need to be packed carefully so as to not dent the top tube, bend forks or wheels.
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i am thinking about getting a surly lht because of the durability as i will need to ship the bike
How do you think your bike got to the shop where you bought it? Pack it correctly (or have a shop do it) and you will likely come out fine.

Unless you are flying Frontier or Southwest, it will almost certainly be cheaper to ship the bike than fly with it. Whatever you do, do not fly U.S Air. They want $200 each way for a bike.
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Cb8s, See if you can rent a bike at the ride's local.

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Funny, I've got a Cannondale T1 as a touring bike (which I love, and any problems I've had with it have been self-inflicted), and I'm looking at getting a Roubaix specifically for doing supported tours. I'd stick with the Roubaix, 100%, if you've got it.
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I have a Roubaix and would HIGHLY recommend it for your week long 500 mile trip. The only reason I'd pick the LHT over the Roubaix is if you needed to carry all your own stuff. But otherwise, stick with the Roubaix.

During the summer of 2010, I rode my Roubaix from Louisville, KY to Philadelphia, PA - 700 miles in 7 days. Then this past summer I rode from Seattle to San Francisco - 1,100 miles in 11 days. Both times I rode the Roubaix, and both times it was PERFECT!! Just do it and have a blast!
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What gear did you carry and how on your Roubaix? I am planning a similiar trip through VT, NH and ME and want to use my Scott CR1 Elite instead of a touring bike. I will have limited support at best.

Were you supported, credit card or what?
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I have a Specialized Roubaix Expert that I have ridden in BRAG (Bike Ride Across Georgia) twice and RAGBRAI (the ride across Iowa) once. Both are 450-500 miles including hammerheads and extra miles and the Roubaix was perfect. It's comfortable, durable and I love it. Since you have a SAG your bike is fine
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Awesome advice! Thanks i will stick with my bike!
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