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Old 03-21-12, 02:06 PM   #1
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Raleigh Sojourn

While at a local bike shop getting my son fitted for his bike for our trip, the manager said he would soon have a 2009 Raleigh Sojourn available for sale.

I haven't seen the bike yet nor do I know how much he is asking...curious if anyone has feedback on this bike for a cross country ride?

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Old 03-21-12, 02:20 PM   #2
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Just to clarify...I am considering this bike for myself not my son.
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When you're in the LBS, lift the bike to get a feel for it's weight, and compare to similar bike nearby.

Sojourns were reported to weigh 34 lbs as sold when they first came out, but I have not weighed one personally. I have weighed a LHT with full fenders, rear rack, B17, pedals and 3 bottles at <29. Disc brakes don't add 5 lbs to a bike, so maybe 3 are in straight gauge main triangle tubing. Something to think about. I'd rather the weight go into clothing, food and water, or better yet, somewhere besides my bike.
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When you're in the LBS, lift the bike to get a feel for it's weight, and compare to similar bike nearby.

Sojourns were reported to weigh 34 lbs as sold when they first came out, but I have not weighed one personally. I have weighed a LHT with full fenders, rear rack, B17, pedals and 3 bottles at <29. Disc brakes don't add 5 lbs to a bike, so maybe 3 are in straight gauge main triangle tubing. Something to think about. I'd rather the weight go into clothing, food and water, or better yet, somewhere besides my bike.
Wow, that's a very light LHT. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ht=bike+weight .

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Wow, that's a very light LHT. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ht=bike+weight .

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Good one.

Now take that LHT and fill those three water bottles add the front rack and you're probably be at 34 lbs.
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Good one.

Now take that LHT and fill those three water bottles add the front rack and you're probably be at 34 lbs.
As it happens... my wife has a 50cm LHT. With rear rack, fenders, and lights, it's 28 lbs.

Even more relevant to the thread, I have a 53cm 2009 Sojourn. I don't recall what it weighed originally, but with replacement 36h wheels, it's 32 pounds, all-up, including a Tara rack on the front, fenders, stock Cargo rack, etc.

For the OP - A Sojourn is a fine cross-country tourer. You can load them down with everything including the kitchen sink, and the handling stays predictable. It's an awesome loaded tourer.

On the downside - if you're not carrying all the gear for multiple people, like I do when touring with my kids, there are lighter options like the LHT. But if you can get the Sojourn at a good price, the stock accessories ( Tubus rack, Brooks saddle, etc ) make a nice off-the-rack package.
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When did they start filling the LHT tubes with helium?
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a 'Sojourn' is a tour.. if you can ride it all day for weeks its a touring bike..

no idea of the component details and condition, of a 3 year old bike..
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As it happens... my wife has a 50cm LHT. With rear rack, fenders, and lights, it's 28 lbs.

Even more relevant to the thread, I have a 53cm 2009 Sojourn. I don't recall what it weighed originally, but with replacement 36h wheels, it's 32 pounds, all-up, including a Tara rack on the front, fenders, stock Cargo rack, etc.

For the OP - A Sojourn is a fine cross-country tourer. You can load them down with everything including the kitchen sink, and the handling stays predictable. It's an awesome loaded tourer.

On the downside - if you're not carrying all the gear for multiple people, like I do when touring with my kids, there are lighter options like the LHT. But if you can get the Sojourn at a good price, the stock accessories ( Tubus rack, Brooks saddle, etc ) make a nice off-the-rack package.
Thanks for the feedback.

I just reweighed my LHT, 28 lbs with a San Marco saddle (1/2 lb lighter than with B17, which would make it 28.5). For tours I add a front rack (another 1 lb), but I left this off for comparison to the Sojourn which is sold without a front rack.

I researched the effect of substituting disc brakes for cantis on the LHT (Disc Trucker) for more direct comparison to the Sojourn. Using published weights, the total effect to weight will be approximately +1.75 lbs, which make my build weight ~30.25 for a Disc Trucker with Cargo rack, full SKS fenders, and B17. I'm using Avid BB7 brakes (in place of Cane Creek cantis), Thomson stem+seatpost, my own build wheels (36h Synergy + Deore + WS DB), XT/LX/Deore/SRAM mix drivetrain, Campy brifters, Ritchey bar. I can shift overall weight -1.0 lb to +2.0 lbs depending on tire/tube choice. Adding a Tara rack brings total weight to 31.25-31.5 lbs.

This puts the hypothethical disc LHT within 0.5-1.0 lb of your Sojourn weight.

I was unaware the Sojourn was equipped with a genuine Tubus Cargo rack, and had long assumed it was an intentional clone likely made of Al rod vs steel tube. Most bikes with included racks are kinda junk, so having a $100 rack thrown in to an already low price does make the Sojourn an attractive deal.
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