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Old 03-26-12, 12:24 AM   #1
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The world "s 10 greatest cycling cities, what do you think?

Do you know the world "s 10 greatest cycling cities?
there are:
10.Trondheim (Norway)
9. Beijing(China)
8.Barcelona(Spain )
7.Baleh(Switzerland)
6.Portland(America)
5.Montreal(Canada)
4.Curitiba(Brazil)
3.Bogota(Colombia)
2.Copenhagen(Denmark)
1.Amsterdam(the Netherlands)
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Old 03-26-12, 12:42 AM   #2
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What were the criteria for selecting these cities?
because I would imagine most Dutch cities (not JUST Amsterdam) woul dbe in the top ten, just like most of the Danish ones would be. And lots of German cities...
And what about Belgium?

I find Amsterdam one of the WORST cities in the Netherlands to cycle in. Too busy with tourists walking and cycling without having ANY regard for the rules/laws of the road.
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I doubt that there is any Dutch city more unfriendly for cyclists than Amsterdam is. Just because it may be closest to the national airport, and most tourists got there, doesn't count.
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OP ... post a link to your source.

Or are these your 10 favourite cities? If so, tell us why.


My 10 favourite cities for cycling .......... well, first of all, I'm not fond of any cities for cycling purposes. I prefer to cycle in the country.

But if I had to pick 10 cities, which I've cycled in, and which weren't too bad for cycling, I'd probably go with the following, in no particular order ...

-- Paris (France)
-- Adelaide (Australia)
-- Melbourne (Australia)
-- Hobart (Australia)
-- Victoria (Canada)
-- Red Deer (Canada)

(am I at 10 yet? ... it's tough coming up with cities that are moderately decent for cycling!!)

-- Chilliwack (Canada)
-- Kamloops (Canada)
-- Strasbourg (France)
-- Nanaimo (Canada)

A common theme in my list is that many of these cities are on the smaller side ... easier to get to the country. So I could have added several more smaller cities to that list.

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Old 03-26-12, 03:24 AM   #5
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Now I havent been to Beijing, but it is becoming more unfriendly to bicycles.... and there are plenty of Chinese cities where that trend isnt so evident.
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I have only been to #9, #6, #5, #1 on list above. However, my riding in Beijing would not put it in my top 10 or even top city amongst those I cycled in China.

My experience is largest cities can be fairly nice around their cores if properly planned. However, there is often a ring with lots of traffic and higher speeds that is a little tougher to get in. Some of the other Chinese cities seemed to have easier time getting through that ring.
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Ever been to Davis, California? It's not much of a tourist destination, but it might be the most bike friendly city around, they even invented the bike lane.
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Ever been to Davis, California? It's not much of a tourist destination, but it might be the most bike friendly city around, they even invented the bike lane.
I have been there for a few days before and after the Gold Rush Randonnee. It might be a bicycle friendly city, but you're right ... not much of a tourist destination. Rather boring. Unless you were a student, there would be no reason to go there. Sacramento might be a little bit more of a tourist destination, and if you were in Sacramento, you might do a day trip out to Davis just to say you'd seen it.
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Lelystad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelystad is not a destination like Amsterdam,
its a bedroom city east of Amsterdam,
But as Reclaimed ZuiderZee bed it was a blank etchasketch..

so they laid out all the houses and streets to be a lot easier and more direct,
via the bike paths, than to drive.
the streets are a bit of a maze , and results in slower traffic..

which also makes things safer for bikes and kids in the street.
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it is said that 40% Amsterdam residents riding bike to work

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What were the criteria for selecting these cities?
because I would imagine most Dutch cities (not JUST Amsterdam) woul dbe in the top ten, just like most of the Danish ones would be. And lots of German cities...
And what about Belgium?

I find Amsterdam one of the WORST cities in the Netherlands to cycle in. Too busy with tourists walking and cycling without having ANY regard for the rules/laws of the road.
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This must be based on the number of cyclists on the road, rather than a measure of the quality of cycling or cycling infrastructure. When i saw "The world "s 10 greatest cycling cities", i found Beijing in top ten greatest cities, I feel weird, Beijing is too heavy with traffic
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I have been there for a few days before and after the Gold Rush Randonnee. It might be a bicycle friendly city, but you're right ... not much of a tourist destination. Rather boring. Unless you were a student, there would be no reason to go there. Sacramento might be a little bit more of a tourist destination, and if you were in Sacramento, you might do a day trip out to Davis just to say you'd seen it.
Too bad you missed it during its golden years. If you had seen what was going on in Davis in the '70s and early '80s, you would know what a bike friendly city looks like. On any day at almost any locale the bikes outnumbered the cars on the streets. Near the campus you would often see thousands of bikes per car. It was truly beautiful. Those of us who were there thought it would never end, so we made no effort to document it, but it was clear that the modal share of the bicycle was well in excess of 80% and could have been above 90%. When someone used a car people would ask if they were sick or injured because it was such an odd thing to do.

It was heartbreaking to see the bikes disappear from Davis. I weathered the '90s and finally left when my family became known as "The last bike-family in town". I am pleased to see a small return of the bike to Davis, but it is such a pale shadow of what it was that it hurts to see it.
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Greatest for what? bicycle lanes? My brother lives in Portland,I'm not in any great hurry to go back to cycle there.It's more fun riding there,than riding once I get there.

If you can actually remember being in Davis in the 70's and 80's.....you were doing it wrong......

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Too bad you missed it during its golden years. If you had seen what was going on in Davis in the '70s and early '80s, you would know what a bike friendly city looks like. On any day at almost any locale the bikes outnumbered the cars on the streets. Near the campus you would often see thousands of bikes per car. It was truly beautiful. Those of us who were there thought it would never end, so we made no effort to document it, but it was clear that the modal share of the bicycle was well in excess of 80% and could have been above 90%. When someone used a car people would ask if they were sick or injured because it was such an odd thing to do.

It was heartbreaking to see the bikes disappear from Davis. I weathered the '90s and finally left when my family became known as "The last bike-family in town". I am pleased to see a small return of the bike to Davis, but it is such a pale shadow of what it was that it hurts to see it.
There were bikes and bike lanes and bicycle-specific traffic signals and all that all over Davis when I was there ... but Davis was such a small town with such light traffic that it would have been bicycle-friendly without all the infrastructure. The town I live in now has no bicycle infrastructure either, and we manage just fine because there isn't much traffic, and the roads are reasonably wide, too.

The thing is, there was nothing in Davis to attract a tourist. It was a really dead quiet, boring, bland little place. A town can have all the bike lanes in the world, but if it doesn't contain a reason to go there, then it cannot be one of the "greatest cycling cities". For me, it's got to have historical stuff, the arts, a beach, mountains, friends and family ... some reason for me to want to go there.

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Just for another perspective, here's a list of 10 from Travel & Leisure website (not sure if they are ranked in order):

"World's Top Biking Cities"

Copenhagen
Portland, OR
Munich
Montreal
Perth
Amsterdam
Seattle
Paris
Minneapolis
Bogota

At least they tell why each city got a mention in the article and slideshow.

http://www.travelandleisure.com/arti...-biking-cities

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I put Paris on my list too ... it was easy to get around (with the possible exception of the cobblestone on the Champs-Élysées), and there was something interesting to see at every turn.
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Here's the Copenhagenize list. They do list their criteria for choices, but I can't believe San Francisco and New York made the list and Minneapolis or Seattle didn't.
http://www.copenhagenize.eu/index/index.html
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Oh, I think I found the OP's list ... the link he should have posted ...
http://www.canada.com/travel/bicycle...188/story.html

Those are just so-called "bicycle-friendly" cities, not cycle-tourist-friendly cities. As mentioned before, just because a city is deemed "bicycle-friendly" doesn't necessarily make it a desireable place to visit as a tourist/traveller.
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I ride here in the Twin Cities [Minneapolis / St. Paul] of Minnesota. A great place to cycle. Dedicated bike "highways" all through the city and out into outlying areas. Also, there are bicycle vacation destinations in Minnesota and some great ones in Southwest Wisconsin.
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Just found out on Mythbusters that Davis is the home of the skycar (Moller International). Now that might be a reason to go there!
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London is surprisingly good for sightseeing by bike. I have a few circular tours that I take friends around. The old street plan dates back hundreds of years and extends quite far out from the city centre. Some of the rougher edges have been smoothed off over the years and bits of the east have changed beyond recognition for the Olympics this summer.
The great thing about London are that there are so many layers of history but you have to work hard to uncover some of them.
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I think Montreal should be number ONE!
Of course I'm not exactly impartial since I live there, but lets look at a few details:
Montreal is a very diverse city with what is probably the most extensive bike path system of any city in North America. But that only really counts because it lets you access an unbelievably wide range of restaurants all over the city, cruise all the tourist attractions in the Old Port and Old Montreal and Saint Denis on streets that are closed to cars, and access a crazy number of public parks, wildlife reserves, and scenic drives along the water that would make a car a liability due to parking issues. If thats not enough - Montreal women are extremely fashion consious and insist on putting themselves on display during the summer months. And many of them drive bikes!
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Montreal? Not even close......
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Montreal? Not even close......
That figures - a smart remark but no alternatives or anything positive to add. I live here cause I LIKE the city, and after visiting almost every major city in North America, and several in South America .... haven't yet found any place else I'd rather live. Found lots of places outside Montreal that I'd like to visit - but none of them are cities.
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That figures - a smart remark but no alternatives or anything positive to add. I live here cause I LIKE the city, and after visiting almost every major city in North America, and several in South America .... haven't yet found any place else I'd rather live. Found lots of places outside Montreal that I'd like to visit - but none of them are cities.

WOW. Go take a chill pill. You are not the only one who lived down south. I lived in europe and asia too. It's great that you are happy there but just so you know, there are better cities out there.
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