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    Carradice Kendal too large to use as front panniers?

    Hi,

    I am trying to work out which bags to buy. I currently own a Carradice Nelson Longflap, which is awesome but I probably won't tour with (try and get the weight a bit lower) and I've got some Super C front panniers, which have a good construction, but I don't like for the following reasons:

    -Slightly conical shape is annoying to pack, hard to fill out the bottom
    -Outside pocket is useless once the bag is packed out, impossible to get anything in/out
    -Black duck cotton not nearly as nice as the green longflap

    I'm considering ditching the Super Cs and going for Kendals both front and rear. This will give me about the same litres as a set of Ortlieb rollers, for less cash, with an easier shape to pack and a really useful pocket on the back of each bag (spare water bottles, tools, bananas). Also it would be a pretty handsome setup.

    But would the Kendals on a front lowrider have too pronounced effect on the handling? (Note; I will temper the deadening effect with a handlebar/randonneur bag up the top to speed things back up again )

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    Just realised this question would be a lot more meaningful with a link to the panniers...

    http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php...&product_id=52

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/lovely_...7629188469658/

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    I haven't toured in quite awhile, but I will add my two pesos anyway... Those bags don't look very waterproof and I think that you would be better off with something that is. I say this because it rains an awful lot where I live and I am a big fan of dry gear. So I would personally go for a set of Ortlieb rollers. Avoiding the frustration of wet gear is well worth the extra expense to me. I just bought a set of front rollers for one two week trip. If you only use them once and you take good care of them, Ortlieb rollers have a good resale value. Non-waterproof pans don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingerland View Post
    I haven't toured in quite awhile, but I will add my two pesos anyway... Those bags don't look very waterproof and I think that you would be better off with something that is. I say this because it rains an awful lot where I live and I am a big fan of dry gear. So I would personally go for a set of Ortlieb rollers. Avoiding the frustration of wet gear is well worth the extra expense to me. I just bought a set of front rollers for one two week trip. If you only use them once and you take good care of them, Ortlieb rollers have a good resale value. Non-waterproof pans don't.
    I have used waxed cotton bags for years and years...you would be surprised just how water proof they really are. I will agree that they aren't as waterproof as a garbage bag or even a set of Ortliebs.

    In answer to the original question, yes I think they would work just fine on the front, they are about the same size as my Ortlieb Classic front rollers.

    FWIW I have a set of the Kendalls on order, they just haven't made it here yet. I am going to use them on my Raleigh Superbe, along with my Carradice Nelson.

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    Thanks for the feedback wahoonc. I agree, water resistance isnt a big concern...



    When your Kendals turn up could you please take a side by side shot with the front rollers? Might help to visualise the size better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lachy94 View Post
    Thanks for the feedback wahoonc. I agree, water resistance isnt a big concern...



    When your Kendals turn up could you please take a side by side shot with the front rollers? Might help to visualise the size better..
    Probably going to be 3 weeks or so.

    According to the website dimensions they are within half a centimeter of being the same size. The Kendall is a bit shorter and a bit thicker.

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    Are you concerned about heel strike with the kendals on the rear? I'm wondering if they would be a problem back there due to the boxy shape...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lachy94 View Post
    Are you concerned about heel strike with the kendals on the rear? I'm wondering if they would be a problem back there due to the boxy shape...
    Nope, I think they are small enough they will be up out of the way. Quite often if I have a fitting question I will mock up a set of bags out of poster board or better yet old political signs. Some people actually build bike panniers out of the coroplast ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    Some people actually build bike panniers out of the coroplast ones.
    Living on US 101, a very popular west coast route, I see people passing through on tours all the time. I often see pans made out of weird things, like plastic kitty litter buckets. But while I always thought it was weird to make pans out of stuff like that, they're light, mostly waterproof, somewhat impact resistant, easy to find and and cheap.

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