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    Stealth Camping - What wierd places have you stayed?

    I just made a post about another topic, but mentioned some of the wierd places i've "stealth camped". I'm curious to hear what kind of strange, unconfortable, or dangerous place y'all have "stealth camped" at.

    just to recap, here are some of mine. as you can probably tell, i love sleeping in wierd places.

    from my last post: "I’ve done “stealth camping” in box cars (abandoned and moving), houses that were under construction, corn fields, rock quarries, caves, under bridges, sheds in home depot parking lots, people’s tool sheds, on the ground in the rain with no shelter, the back of a semi"

    also, i forgot to add one of my favorites from a recent road trip: in a Wal-Mart... i moved some furniture boxes that were stacked up in the middle of the store and slept behind them. it was awesome. didn't get caught, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teadoggg
    also, i forgot to add one of my favorites from a recent road trip: in a Wal-Mart... i moved some furniture boxes that were stacked up in the middle of the store and slept behind them. it was awesome. didn't get caught, either.
    This is not normal behavior for a human being to sleep in the middle of boxes stacked inside a Walmart. It's one thing to stealth camp but if this is true about the Walmart story, it is simply abnormal behavior. And Walmart would not leave a pile of boxes stacked in the middle of the sales floor for very long. And it is the kind of behavior that reflects very poorly upon other touring bicyclist. Stealth camping is fine, flat out ILLEGALLY doing it is simply wrong.

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    I said the walmart thing was done during a car trip. they woudn't have known that i'm a cyclist. and i still practice the "leave no trace" philosophy, wherever I go. As for the boxes, go to a walmart, and go to the furniture section. you'll see. (at least at the one I was in) They had giant boxes with desks, chairs, whatever on the big metal shelves. I just got behind them and slept. I'm sure that if I got caught, it woudn't be too difficult to worm my way out of trouble. I even made a purchase on my way out, so I just think of it as a very extended walmart trip. I'm not ashamed, and I'm not sorry. I had a good time. Generally, i prefer sleep outdoors, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake
    This is not normal behavior for a human being to sleep in the middle of boxes stacked inside a Walmart. It's one thing to stealth camp but if this is true about the Walmart story, it is simply abnormal behavior. And Walmart would not leave a pile of boxes stacked in the middle of the sales floor for very long. And it is the kind of behavior that reflects very poorly upon other touring bicyclist. Stealth camping is fine, flat out ILLEGALLY doing it is simply wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teadoggg
    I said the walmart thing was done during a car trip.... As for the boxes, go to a walmart, and go to the furniture section. you'll see.
    You said road trip not car trip. No matter. However, it is not normal human behavior to sleep in a pile of boxes in the middle of Walmart. Also very dangerous as they could have come with a forklift to compress down the boxes or used a forklift to carry the boxes away. It kind of reminds me of stories about homeless who sleep in dumpsters and then die when the compactor comes. Seriously dude, that is not normal behavior for a human being to do inside a Walmart. The other stuff I kind of understand to a point although I wouldn't sleep in a boxcar nor in a shed at Home Depot. (although sleeping in a moving boxcar could be neat but I wouldn't have the guts to do something illegal like that)

    Now the weirdest place I slept. A Tree House/Deer Stand near Southern Pines, NC during a bike trip in 2001.

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    You're right about the danger factor...but... the boxes were stacked
    by hand on the ground. I'm not defending the legallity of what I did,
    just the safety. I'm a smart guy (most of the time) and always look
    into the safety factor. Even the train car - I found published
    timetables for the rail line, so I knew where/when it was going.

    the treehouse sounds fun!


    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake
    You said road trip not car trip. No matter. However, it is not normal human behavior to sleep in a pile of boxes in the middle of Walmart. Also very dangerous as they could have come with a forklift to compress down the boxes or used a forklift to carry the boxes away. It kind of reminds me of stories about homeless who sleep in dumpsters and then die when the compactor comes. Seriously dude, that is not normal behavior for a human being to do inside a Walmart. The other stuff I kind of understand to a point although I wouldn't sleep in a boxcar nor in a shed at Home Depot. (although sleeping in a moving boxcar could be neat but I wouldn't have the guts to do something illegal like that)

    Now the weirdest place I slept. A Tree House/Deer Stand near Southern Pines, NC during a bike trip in 2001.

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    Yea, it was pretty cool. Saw the site while late in the afternoon on property that had no posted signs and it was about 200 feet off the road while doing a tour from my home to Raleigh, NC. Since it was not deer season at the time (this tree house probably is used as a deer stand, it had shell casings inside), I decided to chance it. Just pulled out my sleeping bag. It creaked a little bit during the night and it had a few mice. Looks like it would leak bad if it rained. Most of the noise came from the trucks on US 15.

    When I left in the morning about 500 feet down the road, I saw the land posted no hunting via a hunting club sign.

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    I tour with my pets, two Jack Russell terriers. We sometimes find ourselves really off the beaten track with limited options for the night. I make the "problem" worse on occasion because I prefer to just ride wherever we make it for the night instead of a prearranged destination. 90% of the time this works best for us but on our cross country we had a maybe three nights that were not so swell. My worst night of bandit camping was during a tropical storm that hit us as we got to Denham Springs LA this past Fall. It was dark and pouring "cats and dogs". Usually we find fantastic shelter pretty quickly but not this night. After trying a half dozens spots we finally found an open garage in a house for sale right on the highway. We were soaked, exhausted, and freezing our russells off but we slept like Kings and then pedaled to a Motel 6 in Baton Rouge the next morning. Bandit camping is the best option in my opinion for touring with pets but can bite you in the rump sometimes. Here's the link and a few pics of that night http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journ..._id=16424&v=cr

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake
    You said road trip not car trip. No matter. However, it is not normal human behavior to sleep in a pile of boxes in the middle of Walmart.
    Dang! thats a bit pretentious to say that such a thing as "normal human behavior" exists, and i doubt it is abnormal for any animal to search for and use any shelter it may find. Anyway the sweetest place i had ever stealth camped was an abandoned Renaissance fair grounds outside of Fredericksburg VA. It had around 35 buildings, and a ship in a lake. I slept in the fourth floor of the tallest building there, and hooked up my hammock to the exposed studs in the walls. I have also found places to hook up my hammock on top of seven eleven's.

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    Many years ago was touring on a budget (flat broke) It had been raining for two days, I just want a nice dry warm place to sleep. My tent had a leak and everything was wet. It was just getting dark when I happened on
    Goodwill donation box that was open. Nothing much in the box, room for my bike and myself I thought what the hell...slept like a baby.

    Then their was the time I woke up at the Klan Rally in Fl...
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    this isn't really 'stealth' camping, but what the hell. more like urban camping.

    One day me and my friends though it would be really cool to camp out one night in boston.
    We got out his mountain hardwear tent, our bigazz backpacking packs, the msr whisperlite, and walked around boston late one night. We finally pitched tent in the boston common, and cooked ramen on the stove. It was really cool, and no bums or others bothered us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teadoggg
    "I’ve done “stealth camping” in box cars (abandoned and moving), houses that were under construction, corn fields, rock quarries, caves, under bridges, sheds in home depot parking lots, people’s tool sheds, on the ground in the rain with no shelter, the back of a semi"
    I think you're overdue for a Darwin Award.

    The only place I would like to stealth camp is the presidential suite of a Four Seasons.

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    Id agree that its AWFULLY and tastelessly pretentious to describe Teadoggs touring style as "not normal human behavior"... i mean who are you to say/assume he was blind about doing it anyway? where do you live anyway gpsblake? Anything goes in forums, except judgementals, and they deserve a hot flame under their ass .
    Teadog, i admire your stealth courage, just stay careful my friend.

    On my tour from Seattle to Santa Cruz, i didnt go as far as sleeping in a walmart, i was too well prepared for that, (no cc though) but when your touring, your essentially temporarily homeless.. by choice, so sometimes, you wind up in a tight spot and you can only do what you can. BentbaggerLens' post is a good example. Ive crashed 4 rainy days straight on a picnic table all the way in the back of Humboldt University.. under a shelter that was also the smoking area for students of a bio class. hah!

    I lash a baby taylor guitar on my bike on all my tours (ultimate travel guitar!), and it has definitely been a catalyst for me to meet people that perhaps will offer me a floor space for a night or earn some decent money in a touristy town.

    id like to hear more on this from people..

    goodnight

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    I'll pitch my tent just about anywhere. I always try to ask for permission if possible. I also try not to camp someplace that might land me in jail. Maybe I'm just too conservative.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake
    And Walmart would not leave a pile of boxes stacked in the middle of the sales floor for very long.
    Have you been to EVERY Walmart in America? Sheesh, dude, lighten up. I wish I had the cajones to stealth camp more, and I'll need them because I'm planning on stealth camping from Frankfurt to Santiago.

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    There are some good stories in here. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only person who enjoys staying overnight in some very unusual places.

    Thanks for the people who have come to my defense, I appreciate it. Like I've mentioned earlier, most of the risks I take in my life are calculated, and generally I have some idea of the consequences ahead of me due to injury, or if I'm caught.

    Day-to-day life can be so mundane sometimes. I like to shake things up a bit with the "stealth camp". I think it really helps pull things into perspective.

    Besides, i *love* being outside. And not outside in a big tent.... no, outside like on the ground, no sleeping bag, with nothing but trees and animals in sight. Until last summer, i'd never even gone camping with a tent... i only bought one beacuse my girlfriend got spooked by some sort of animal and refused to camp with me until I got her a tent to sleep in.

    What fun will I be when i'm 80 if I don't have ridiclous stories to tell my grandchildren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saudade
    I think you're overdue for a Darwin Award.

    The only place I would like to stealth camp is the presidential suite of a Four Seasons.
    Sweet! I've never won anything in my life!

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    gpsblake, what Walmart do you go to? At the one around here, basically the entire thing is just boxes and merchandise strewn about the aisles. It's amazing that anyone can actually find anything. There seem to be practically no employees, and any employee who found someone probably just wouldn't care. This is especially true during the night shift.

    The thing that would bother me would be the piped-in music and flourescent lighting.

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    There seems to be some misunderstanding around stealth camping. It is my belief that it is only stealth camping if no one knows you are there and you leave no trace. To that I add only on public land (easy to find here is Canada), unimproved land, unmarked and unfenced property.

    Although I do not believe it is a members decision as what is normal human behaviour, staying in a Wal-Mart is trespass.

    As to strange places to stealth camp, I've done a few but probably downtown Toronto (Yonge and Bloor streets) was my finest hour.

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    Well maybe I was blunt in saying that sleeping inside a pile of boxes inside a Walmart salesfloor is abnormal behavior. But I wanted to make the point of

    a) it is trespassing
    b) it is very dangerous. Walmart compresses used boxes using machinery. One fork lift compressing down on the boxes and you can get seriously hurt.
    c) if he was discovered, a very good possibility the police would be talking to him. Possibly even a night in the tank or 72 hour psych eval.

    I was kind of hope he was joking about the Walmart thing. I also wanted to make the point that no one should be doing this.

    All the rest of his ideas, kind of cool in a way and understandable. I think it is also kind of cool that he wants to tour without a tent or a sleeping bag and just use a backpack. Look forward to reading a journal on it. As long as he doesn't put himself into any danger (like Walmart), I like to see him go through with this.

    I worked for Walmart in Lexington,SC part time a few years ago. I can promise you in the one I worked at, boxes were broken down immediately, placed on a crate and removed from the floor very quickly. Customer safety issue. They even showed a video explaining this.

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    The strangest place I ever camped was a tomato field near Venice, Italy. It was early November and I had just crossed the Dolomites. It was dark when I reach the outskirts of Venice, and instead of going into the city (and I didn't know if it would even be possible with a bike, since it's mostly islands without road access), I headed toward where there was supposedly a campground according to my guidebook, I think a bit north of the Lido. Alas, the campground was closed for the season and locked up, but there was a large tomato field adjacent to it. The tomatoes had MOSTLY been picked over and the plants were dead and laying on the sandy ground. In the dark, I set up my tent, trying to move away any tomatoes first. When I got inside my tent, it was apparent that there were still plenty of tomatoes under my tent, which went splat under my tent from my body weight. There was a strong tomato smell, both tomatoes & foliage, which fortunately I like. With daylight the next morning, I carefully packed my tent (an interesting experience with all the smashed, mostly green tomatoes on the underside of my tent. I rode back to the edge of Venice and successfully put my bike on a vaporetto to reach a youth hostel on a small island opposite Piazza San Marco. When I left 3 days later, the first vaporetto wouldn't let me board with my bike, but the 2nd one didn't object.

    I had a another memorable wild camping experience in Italy in an olive grove in southern Italy, about 100 km east of the Amalfi Coast toward Potenza. There were millions of twinkling fireflies (this was late June), and the effect was utterly enchanting. I've never seen fireflies elsewhere in Europe, and I've never seen anything like that quantity of fireflies anywhere else, and I grew up in an area of North America with "lightning bugs", mainly in June.

    Another odd camping experience was on a deserted beach in the Sinai peninsula. There was a very stiff, warm breeze after dark. I rolled out my sleeping bag, and as I lay there looking out across the water, I perceived an object from the corner of my eye. A moment later an enormous camel walked right past me, just missing trampling me. I have no idea what a camel's eyesight & sense of smell are like, and therefore if it could have inadvertently trampled me. Anyway, it just kept walking. I'm told that there are not really wild camels there, but that the local Bedouins often permit their camels to roam freely.

    Those experiences were all years ago, and to be honest, I hope my camping days are over. It has been 8 years since I last carried camping gear on my bike. In many of the places I've toured since then, camping would make little sense (e.g. Thailand, Mexico), anyway. These days, I much prefer a comfortable bed, hot shower, and enjoying the local cuisine for dinner.

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    I think i mentioned earlier that the boxes were full of furniture, and were on the floor. The only way they were moving was with a human touch, not machine. Also, I've dealt with my fair share of cops that want to know what i'm up to (i'm a fairly serious amature photographer), and I am pretty confident I could talk my way out of any serious trouble, should I get caught. It was a risk i was willing to take, and in all honesty, i wouldn't mind spending a day or two in jail for something that trite. It would make an intersting story, i wouldn't mind at all.

    To address point (a) below, in many towns, there are law that prohibit loitering and vagrancy. Unless you have permission to camp where ever you are (which defeats the idea of steal camping) you can be cited/arrested. Not very likely to happen, but it's a fact. So while we're sleeping in parks, under bridges, behind municipal buildings, or on Farmer John's land, unless you're doing so with permission, you risk prosecution. But like I said, it's not too likey.

    gpsblake, thanks for the concern, though. it's nice to know that people out there care about other people. I look forward to you reading my logs from upcomming tours of mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake
    Well maybe I was blunt in saying that sleeping inside a pile of boxes inside a Walmart salesfloor is abnormal behavior. But I wanted to make the point of

    a) it is trespassing
    b) it is very dangerous. Walmart compresses used boxes using machinery. One fork lift compressing down on the boxes and you can get seriously hurt.
    c) if he was discovered, a very good possibility the police would be talking to him. Possibly even a night in the tank or 72 hour psych eval.

    I was kind of hope he was joking about the Walmart thing. I also wanted to make the point that no one should be doing this.

    All the rest of his ideas, kind of cool in a way and understandable. I think it is also kind of cool that he wants to tour without a tent or a sleeping bag and just use a backpack. Look forward to reading a journal on it. As long as he doesn't put himself into any danger (like Walmart), I like to see him go through with this.

    I worked for Walmart in Lexington,SC part time a few years ago. I can promise you in the one I worked at, boxes were broken down immediately, placed on a crate and removed from the floor very quickly. Customer safety issue. They even showed a video explaining this.

    Cheers

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    One of our best spots was somewhere halfway between Cochabamba and Oruro in Bolivia. Halfway up a huge climb we pitched the tent just out of sight from the road. A dense fog came up and we heard a sheep herder we had seen earlier walk by really close with his herd(without noticing us) while playing his flute. What made this spot also real special was the can of Bush baked beans we had found in a high-end grocery store in Cochabamba!

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    I think my most humorous stealth camp was underneath a fallen log right next to the parking lot for a gravel quarry in the middle of nowhere. I slept like a rock, and got a laugh out of the faces of the guys parking thier cars in the morning to go to work when they saw me sitting on the log brushing my teeth in the morning.
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    You can build a ring of tumble weeds around you they will stick together and sleep 10 feet from the road nobody will see you. They also make a good wind break.

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    Teadoggg,

    That is true. There is a small risk of being discovered and busted for vagrancy/trespass/loitering while stealth camping in a spot. You also were correct, even if you got discovered, most of the time, they will tell you to scat or just leave you alone and the odds of being arrested are minimal. You'll be harassed more by the highway patrol trying to "protect your safety" while riding your bike. There are a few areas that I would never consider stealth camping by. They include.

    a) schools
    b) playgrounds (unless part of a city park where camping is allowed)
    c) any place marked NO TRESPASSING
    d) medians in the road
    e) land between exit ramps on highways including highway overpasses
    f) near a military base
    g) Mexican border
    h) Cemetaries that are maintained
    i) any land where you have to hop a fence (implied NO trespassing)

    I also hate camping legally in RV parks. I also use a dog test when picking a spot. If I can hear a dog fairly close by, I move on. I also make sure that I start no fires and only use my camping stove. And of course, leave no trace.

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