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Old 09-24-12, 05:48 PM   #1
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Marathon Mondial questions

I'm looking for a general use on/off road, commuting and touring tire, and the Marathon Mondial apears to be a good option, specially since I can get some nice deals on them.
Here are the questions:
The deals I talk about are for the 42-622 size. As a 29er tire user, this size scares me a little for being on the small side. Have they much less volume than, lets say, a regular 2.0/2.1 29er tire? Is their size restrictive for some happier singletrack riding?

I can get the wire or the folding version. What are the differences between them besides the construction method? Is the price difference really worth?

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I'm looking for a general use on/off road, commuting and touring tire, and the Marathon Mondial apears to be a good option, specially since I can get some nice deals on them.
Here are the questions:
The deals I talk about are for the 42-622 size. As a 29er tire user, this size scares me a little for being on the small side. Have they much less volume than, lets say, a regular 2.0/2.1 29er tire? Is their size restrictive for some happier singletrack riding?

I can get the wire or the folding version. What are the differences between them besides the construction method? Is the price difference really worth?

Thanks in advance for any help
I have the Marathon Dureme in a 700x42 size and the Schwalbe Smart Sam in the 700x47 size. Both are smaller than a true 29er tire and will require higher air pressure over most conditions. However, the tire should do very well on firmer single track.
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Is there much size difference between the Smart Sam and the Mondial?
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The deals I talk about are for the 42-622 size. As a 29er tire user, this size scares me a little for being on the small side. Have they much less volume than, lets say, a regular 2.0/2.1 29er tire? Is their size restrictive for some happier singletrack riding?
Whilst I have a 42-622 tyre, on my recent Chasing the Dirt tour I rode with 47-622 Schwalbe Marathon Mondials. On that tour I would have done over 1,000 km of dirt riding (not single track, dirt roads) fully loaded. I lowered the tyre pressure to 45 to 65 PSI. The bike at times had 38 litres of water on board. Handled all but the bulldust fine. Only the bulldust had me walking. I suspect that 42-622 would have handled similar conditions just fine.

I see that Schwalbe have now released a 50-622 BTW



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The 50-622 Mondials sound interesting but they are quite heavy, should be expensive and I can't find them anywhere for now.

I can get the Smart Sams 47-622 for €13 (!!). Barrettscv, how do you like yours? I guess they don't have even near the same durability and puncture protection of the Mondials
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I can get the Smart Sams 47-622 for 13 (!!).
Where?
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At bike-components.de until last night. Now they only have the 2013 version for €17
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I currently have Mondial 700x40 tires on my touring bike (Raleigh Sojourn). I haven't done any singletrack on them, but they handle dirt roads and jeep trails very well. When it gets rocky, they don't do well, since the lack of knobs makes them slide sideways on rock too easily. That said, the bike I had wasn't very good for rocky surfaces either.
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I can get the Smart Sams 47-622 for €13 (!!). Barrettscv, how do you like yours? I guess they don't have even near the same durability and puncture protection of the Mondials
The Smart Sam is a very good tire. It really is a jack-of-all trades performer. It's on-road performance is better than expected, the contiguous set of knobs along the center of the tire reduce rolling resistance. The scattered knobs on the shoulder of the tire provide very good traction on off-camber trails. The tire has flat protection, I have never had a flat. The ride quality is very good on my fully rigid bike. It's a great 50% on-road/50% off-road tire.
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Just found the Smart Sams for €13 in 29x2.1 in other german store.
Schwalbe also says they have quite a good durability
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Placed my order on a set of 29x2.1 Smart Sams. Lets see how they perform
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The folding version has a superior sidewall and compound according to the specs. I have two folding 700/40s and have stopped using the rear one because of multiple blowouts on the rear rim. Partly my fault for choosing large rims (Velocity Psycho 31mm) but the folding tire fits very loosely (no tools and little effort needed to mount it) and apparently comes off easily also.
I also had a wired 700/40and it was replaced due to a flat spot.
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