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Old 10-30-12, 04:02 AM   #1
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Commuter/Recreational/Touring bike all in one?

As you can see from my sig line, I own a few bikes. My favorite is my Windsor Tourist that I've had for some time now. Its my main commuter. This coming year I plan to do some sub-24 hours rides, with my son or solo.

We are a car-lite family. I rarely drive the family car. I commute by bike in all but the worst weather (i.e. this hurrican we having as I type this). This being said, I budget every year to buy a new bike. Except I have come to realize I don't really need another bike. I would like to do some practical upgrades to the Tourist instead.

I want to set this bike up to be an all-around commuter and touring bike, but be able to shed weight quickly so I can ride some recreational/charity rides like centuries.

My current set-up:
Blackburn rear rack. I rotate between a trunk bag and Trans-It panniers as needed.
Blackburn front rack (currently not on the bike)
VO fenders.
Headlamp and rear blinky.
Wellgo platforms (will be trying toes clips this week).
Profile Designs Century areobar (my commute is windy, just installed... no comment on this yet).

I am already adding/taking away bags as needed. I thought of upgrading my wheelset. Gearing, shifters and derailers are holding up fine so far. It was suggested I buy a cheap trailer and loose all the bags and racks but that wouldn't work in my current commuting situation.

I would like to hear from others who use the same bike for commuting and touring and what transition it takes to go from one function to the other.
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Old 10-30-12, 04:54 AM   #2
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for multiple purpose/one bike riding, switching out wheelsets with cogset and tires already installed makes morphs a lot easier. try to find wheelsets with the same rim width.

if you set up a bike a certain way, handlebar switchouts take less than 5 minutes to go from flat bar to drop to commuter. it's kind of nice that way.

these are all the same bike. handlebar switchouts are very quick.
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I commute with my touring bike. Racks and fenders always stay on. Throw on bags to tour. It's not the perfect commuter but it fits my needs well.

Toe clips make the world go round : )
. . . or at least the pedals. . . . more efficiently than they already do.
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Steve, I use my touring bike for most everything except commuting and technical off road riding. It's a versatile platform and it replaced three dedicated to purpose roadies. The only items that I R&R are the headlamps as they're often not needed and are an old, heavy design and the fenders, as I'm not a fan of how fenders look.

I have a few cassettes I can rotate among my bikes (all 8S), which can help to fine tune for a particular ride and load, but not a major point.

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I also have a Windsor Tourist that I use for all purposes. I donít worry about taking racks on and off and I like fenders for all type of riding. I have a couple photos but I need to take some fresh ones as much has changed on the bike. Two items stay on the bike all the time. A small bar bag that hangs on the inside of the bars facing me and comes off in a second and goes with me. The second is a rear basket that mounts to the rear rack along with extenders points for my bin / panniers to attach. If I have a lot to haul I use both bins and basket. If I have a smaller amount the basket works and if I have larger items the openings in the basket work well to Bungee or tie things to. I also have a light soft side cooler that fits snug in the basket along with my locks. The front rack is a DIY and comes off in a couple minutes and I have taken it off even though it doesnít weigh that much. I have in the past had the same size basket mounted to that rack but I didnít care for it.





I donít think the outward items are what makes mine a dual purpose ride though. I have made a lot of changes to the gearing to get a setup that works as low and high as I need to tour, but also with the wide spacing thatís required to be nimble around town unloaded. My gearing may not work for anyone else, but it is IMO the thing that lets the bike work as all kinds of bikes in one. Here is more on that. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...4-28-32-36)-o)

To me the Windsor came geared rather strangely for a tour bike with the road triple in the front and the wide cassette in the back. It didnít get low enough for loaded touring and my legs around here. It had too much high end for even a road bike for me and the spacing and overlaps were ok but not good enough to not remind me I was on an unloaded touring bike. I tried a mtn crank and that was a nice tour bike but worse as a commuter. So I came up with this half step (4 letter words to most) gearing idea and although I havenít had a chance to ride it a lot yet the early report is Iím liking it for its mixed mode usage while keeping a center / center position thatís perfect to me. Looks like this now.



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Do you still have the 11-32 cassette on your Tourist? I always wondered about that.... seems it could have a little more on the low end.
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Do you still have the 11-32 cassette on your Tourist? I always wondered about that.... seems it could have a little more on the low end.

Nope it’s hanging on a peg. I have a 12-36 now.

45-42-24 X 12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,36
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It's pretty light in this configuration, under 30lbs I'd guess, never weighed it. When I go on tour I use the steel fork that came with the bike as it has low-rider eyelets. I find I don't carry much stuff commuting or going out so I use the carbon fork for all my recreational and daily riding. I have an 11-28 cassette and 48/36/26 on the front. I'd drop the inner to a 22 and maybe put a 42 in the middle and a bashguard on the crank if I were doing a mountainous tour... the deore crank has a lot of flexibility in this regard.
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1) I have pretty much stopped using any drop bars; My back is old now, when touring I want to see the scenery and traffic, and when I am commuting survival means being very aware of suroundings and traffic. All best done upright.
2) I you want/need to diddle with the wheelset, would recommend a dynohub based front wheel. Check Peter Whites site for a nice dynohub under $50.
3) Haven't found much to like with disk brakes so staying with Canti's with Koolstop pads which more than meet my stopping needs.
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Nope it’s hanging on a peg. I have a 12-36 now.

45-42-24 X 12,14,16,18,21,24,28,32,36
Up front I'm running 50/39/30. Works okay. Heard about dropping to a 24 but I will try the 11-24T first,
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With the 30t chainring your 11-32 gives you a low gear of 25GI the new 11-34 will give you 23.5GI going to a 12-26 would give you 22.2GI.

If you drop to a 26t chain ring they would be 21.6GI , 20.4GI and 19.2GI

If you go to 24t ring you get 20GI , 18.8GI and 17.7GI

If you are just looking at a lower gear you can pick and choose what combo gives you what you need. I am shifting up and down from a 42t to a 24t on my Windsor and it works fine but it is not an easy shift and it should be done as a soft shift. You should also look for a chain minder device if you go with the 26t or 24t granny gear.
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