Rims, and Shifters, and Brakes, Oh My... ?s
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Rims, and Shifters, and Brakes, Oh My... ?s
I'm getting a build list together for my recent Trek 830 purchase. Decided to bite the bullet and and just build the darn thing, so I'll have options. End goal is a loaded tourer and budget expedition bike. I'm not super happy with the groupset that's on it (Acera/Alivio), and will be replacing it with Deore/LX components, so it's not a high budget build. Money is, as always, an issue, but I'm willing to pay a little more for quality, even if it takes a little longer to get it right.
Asking for suggestions regarding rims, shifters, and brakes/levers. I'll be putting on a Nashbar trekking bar, and ditching the flat bar that's on it.
-Looking for black 36h rims to replace the (slightly) worn Alessa rims that are on it. Definitely looking for black, but that and 36h are about as far as my knowledge goes. The bike came with Schwalbe Marathons 1.5", and I'd like to use those, as well as having the capability to run wider tires with more tread and knobbies for dirt/trail.
-Shifters... the bike currently has Grip Shifts, and I'm not convinced. I'd like to upgrade to friction shift, and would prefer thumb shifting. I guess I could do barcons, but not sure how well they would work on the ends of a trekking bar? I've used Shimano trigger? shifters, so that's what I'm used to and am comfortable with. Planning on a 9spd cassette, prolly 11-34.
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
I searched for all these questions, but my weaksauce search-fu either found too much info, none of which was exactly what I was looking for, or not much at all.
As always, thanks for any and all assistance folks.
Asking for suggestions regarding rims, shifters, and brakes/levers. I'll be putting on a Nashbar trekking bar, and ditching the flat bar that's on it.
-Looking for black 36h rims to replace the (slightly) worn Alessa rims that are on it. Definitely looking for black, but that and 36h are about as far as my knowledge goes. The bike came with Schwalbe Marathons 1.5", and I'd like to use those, as well as having the capability to run wider tires with more tread and knobbies for dirt/trail.
-Shifters... the bike currently has Grip Shifts, and I'm not convinced. I'd like to upgrade to friction shift, and would prefer thumb shifting. I guess I could do barcons, but not sure how well they would work on the ends of a trekking bar? I've used Shimano trigger? shifters, so that's what I'm used to and am comfortable with. Planning on a 9spd cassette, prolly 11-34.
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
I searched for all these questions, but my weaksauce search-fu either found too much info, none of which was exactly what I was looking for, or not much at all.
As always, thanks for any and all assistance folks.
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-Looking for black 36h rims to replace the (slightly) worn Alessa rims that are on it. Definitely looking for black, but that and 36h are about as far as my knowledge goes. The bike came with Schwalbe Marathons 1.5", and I'd like to use those, as well as having the capability to run wider tires with more tread and knobbies for dirt/trail.
https://www.treefortbikes.com/product...hyno-Lite.html
-Shifters... the bike currently has Grip Shifts, and I'm not convinced. I'd like to upgrade to friction shift, and would prefer thumb shifting. I guess I could do barcons, but not sure how well they would work on the ends of a trekking bar? I've used Shimano trigger? shifters, so that's what I'm used to and am comfortable with. Planning on a 9spd cassette, prolly 11-34.
https://www.paulcomp.com/thumbies.html
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...m-adaptor.html
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA1G80F08544
If you need one much longer, Soma has this
https://store.somafab.com/sohiristad.html
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Exactly what I was looking for, thanks friend!
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"-Looking for black 36h rims to replace the (slightly) worn Alessa rims that are on it. Definitely looking for black, but that and 36h are about as far as my knowledge goes. The bike came with Schwalbe Marathons 1.5", and I'd like to use those, as well as having the capability to run wider tires with more tread and knobbies for dirt/trail."
-Shifters... the bike currently has Grip Shifts, and I'm not convinced. I'd like to upgrade to friction shift, and would prefer thumb shifting. I guess I could do barcons, but not sure how well they would work on the ends of a trekking bar? I've used Shimano trigger? shifters, so that's what I'm used to and am comfortable with. Planning on a 9spd cassette, prolly 11-34.
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
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I was looking at the Alex site, and the DH19 looked like a good bet. Yikes! A lot of posts out there about breakages. The DH22 was a really good rim which stood up to heavy use, and accidental abuse by me. And the local shop has built tons of courier rigs with it. So too bad.
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MassiveD, the biggest reason I'm really wanting to do a threaded-to-threadless conversion, is that I've read that stem length plays a major role in dialling in the trekking bars. Having a threadless stem will make it a lot easier to swap and fit. Probably not as big a deal as I'm thinking it is, but there ya go. I don't mind if it looks kludged together, as long as it works. Actually, for the build I'm planning, uglier is betterer. Durability and usefulness are my main goals, aesthetics come in a distant last.
That, and I may be interested in going to dirt drops, and moving the trekking bar over to my hard-tail. Having the removable face plate just makes sense to me. May be thinking at it sideways, but thats my thoughts.
As for the shifters, I tend to shift pretty hard, and the Deore indexed shifters I'm using tend to go out fairly quickly. I think that friction shifting using those Paul Thumbies, will help alleviate that problem somewhat, as well as me paying atttention to my shifting more.
Re: brakes... good point. They work fine, so I'll run them for now. One less thing to spend money on. Hopefully someday, I'll actually figure out the whole brake thing. Right now, it just makes my poor little hillbilly brain spin.
Thanks again for the advice!
That, and I may be interested in going to dirt drops, and moving the trekking bar over to my hard-tail. Having the removable face plate just makes sense to me. May be thinking at it sideways, but thats my thoughts.
As for the shifters, I tend to shift pretty hard, and the Deore indexed shifters I'm using tend to go out fairly quickly. I think that friction shifting using those Paul Thumbies, will help alleviate that problem somewhat, as well as me paying atttention to my shifting more.
Re: brakes... good point. They work fine, so I'll run them for now. One less thing to spend money on. Hopefully someday, I'll actually figure out the whole brake thing. Right now, it just makes my poor little hillbilly brain spin.
Thanks again for the advice!
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I'm getting a build list together for my recent Trek 830 purchase. Decided to bite the bullet and and just build the darn thing, so I'll have options. End goal is a loaded tourer and budget expedition bike. I'm not super happy with the groupset that's on it (Acera/Alivio), and will be replacing it with Deore/LX components, so it's not a high budget build. Money is, as always, an issue, but I'm willing to pay a little more for quality, even if it takes a little longer to get it right. Asking for suggestions regarding rims, shifters, and brakes/levers. I'll be putting on a Nashbar trekking bar, and ditching the flat bar that's on it. -Looking for black 36h rims to replace the (slightly) worn Alessa rims that are on it. Definitely looking for black, but that and 36h are about as far as my knowledge goes. The bike came with Schwalbe Marathons 1.5", and I'd like to use those, as well as having the capability to run wider tires with more tread and knobbies for dirt/trail. -Shifters... the bike currently has Grip Shifts, and I'm not convinced. I'd like to upgrade to friction shift, and would prefer thumb shifting. I guess I could do barcons, but not sure how well they would work on the ends of a trekking bar? I've used Shimano trigger? shifters, so that's what I'm used to and am comfortable with. Planning on a 9spd cassette, prolly 11-34.
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
I searched for all these questions, but my weaksauce search-fu either found too much info, none of which was exactly what I was looking for, or not much at all. As always, thanks for any and all assistance folks.
-Considering going with V-brakes vice the Shimano cantis that are on it, so I'll need (I think) V-brake compatible brake levers. Brakes, and compatibility, still seem like voodoo to me. I've read the Sheldon Brown articles, but am still not 100% on the pros and cons.
Also, does anyone make a threaded stem adapter that allows one to use modern, threadless, stems? Seems like that would make it easier to dial in the fit, reach, height, etc. I think I remember seeing one in my hours of searching, but I didn't bookmark the page and can't find it again.
I searched for all these questions, but my weaksauce search-fu either found too much info, none of which was exactly what I was looking for, or not much at all. As always, thanks for any and all assistance folks.
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To break it down further...
1- I wanted a 'new' bike. Which is plenty of justification for most folks to buy something.
2- I wanted a project bike I could wrench on to start learning bike mechanics. Turns out I'm gonna have two old bike projects.
3- Guns, computers, cars, etc., I don't have much that is stock. I like fiddling with stuff.
4- I've liked the old steel frame mountain bikes since I was growing up in the late 80's and early 90's. We couldn't afford one then, so I found one at a reasonable price, had the money, my rent was paid, my non-existant kids didn't go hungry, so I bought one for nostalgia reasons among other things.
5- The bike is more-or-less ridable as it sits, but I want to build it up how I want it. Are the changes absolutely needed? Most of them aren't, but they are changes I want to make, to turn this into 'my' tourer as budget allows.
6- I like my current bike, but wanted something to ride on the road so I can leave my hard-tail set up for offroad/trail riding.
Are those reasons acceptable? Do they meet with your approval? Thanks.
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Some of the components I've already seen mentioned before (Sun Rhynolite, CR-18, Velocity Dyad, Ultegra bar-end shifters on Paul Thumbies, Deore V-brakes...). Just to add a couple of notes from my own point of view. You can always go with an 8 speed cassette and get Falcon friction shifters. They're inexpensive and there are a lot of positive comments on them. I bought a pair and haven't tried them yet but look solid enough (what preoccupied me). And I bought Jagwire brake pads for my Deore V-brakes (because of various comments on the brake pads that come with them). Again, I haven't even tried the Jagwire yet (my touring bike is in boxes but may oddly be sold once I complete it only to complete another one lol) but some people recommend the Kool Stop dual compound black/salmon brake pads.
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