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Old 12-19-12, 09:49 AM   #1
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Help me pick a Salsa Vaya

I'm a new rider looking for a do anything adventure-cycle suitable for Taiwan's streets and mountains. Grocery getter, jungle crosser, and island tourer.

I don't have the experience to know which setup is best for me.

2012 Salsa Vaya 3 - $999 http://road-bikes.findthebest.com/l/...2-Salsa-Vaya-3

2012 Salsa Vaya 2 - $1359 http://www.adabike.com/bikes-1/salsa-vaya

2013 Salsa Vaya 3 - $1398 http://salsacycles.com/bikes/vaya_3

2013 Salsa Vaya 2 - $1898 http://salsacycles.com/bikes/vaya

I'm afraid of the 3's bar end shifters while in heavy traffic. The 2013's come with BB7s. If I change the 2012/3 to brifters and BB7s, I wonder if I'm any better off than buying a different model.

Feels like a purchase is imminent and it feels good. I can't wait to stop shopping and start riding.

Regards,

M

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Old 12-19-12, 11:02 AM   #2
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It is positioned as a Light touring bike, you realize.. [?]
Disc 26" wheel LHT (also QBP)
may be more the tool for that "do anything adventure-cycle" goal.

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I'm afraid of .. bar end shifters while in heavy traffic.
I have never had an issue with bar end shifters.
in traffic, just pick a gear and stick with it till you feel safer..
you dont have to look down, to shift that either, and your hands are still on the handlebars.

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Old 12-19-12, 11:21 AM   #3
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It is positioned as a Light touring bike, you realize.. [?]
Disc 26" wheel LHT (also QBP)
may be more the tool for that "do anything adventure-cycle" goal.


I have never had an issue with bar end shifters.
in traffic, just pick a gear and stick with it till you feel safer..
you dont have to look down, to shift that either, and your hands are still on the handlebars.

Credit card touring is pretty easy on our little island. I hear you can sleep in temples for free.

I'm looking for light, but not Casseroll light. The Vaya seems to be positioned between the Casseroll and LHT.

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thought, you planned trips off the Island,in the larger world..

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This is why I just got the frame and put it together myself. I am not fond of 32 spoke wheels. I would recommend 36 at a minimum. I use 40 because I am a Clyde. I prefer a 3x9 setup with barcon shifters. I am now using in-line brake levers as well. This is easy to do when you build it yourself. I also prefer small granny gears. I got some older cranks from ebay that go to 20. With the 12-36 9 spd clusters, I could easily live with 22, but 30 was only suitable in my youth and that is long gone.

I shopped deals and accumulated parts over an extended period. When I finally got around to getting the frame I had nearly all the parts I needed. And I had exactly what I needed, like BB7 brakes instead of BB5.
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I have an older Vaya (compact double 2) and it depends on how hilly it is. I've found in some of my short weekend tours the compact double (50/34) x (12-32) with 26" wheels has a 27.xx gear inches is good enough (for me) for anything this side of L'alpe d'Huez. Mind you I am also somewhat of an ultralight bike tourer/commuter. If I was to do it again, and have in mind more dirt touring, I would go with the triple in the Vaya 3. I bought Shimano 105 components rather than SRAM Force stuff because the 105 brifters are triple compatible. I may still convert back to a triple...

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Old 12-20-12, 09:29 AM   #7
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I'm not opposed to building a bike, I've just never done it before. I think parts are easy to come by around here. Definitely something to consider!

Thanks for the feedback.
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