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Old 02-25-13, 04:01 PM   #1
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for all the brook saddle fans.. do they cost to much or ?

if any thinks brooke saddles are expensive. i disagree,compared to these leather saddles below,
they make brooks look very cheap, in price that is.

check these out:http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...EUMATIC+SADDLE

found these while searching for a b-17. and got one for $80.00(2mo. old) plus a second
saddle throne in, a SAN MARCO CARBON(3mos. old).

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Old 02-25-13, 04:33 PM   #2
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Jep, Brooks saddles are leather saddles for the common man. Plenty of more expensive (and possibly better) options out there for those with more cash. Leather quality and thickness may be differences worth noting.
Gilles Berthoud saddles are an other example of a step up (at least in price).
But don't forget the saddle has to fit, no matter how expensive

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Before the Purchase by the Italian company , It seems they were not selling as well ,
the Milanese fashion marketing may have been stirred up, to make their investment pay off .

I dont recall any multiple color options for one.. but that was pre internet.
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Brooks saddles aren't overly expensive. They're pretty much middle-of-the-road when it comes to price.
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How much is something worth? It is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Are those saddles worth $1,000 or more? Only if someone is willing to pay that much for it.
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if any thinks brooke saddles are expensive. i disagree,compared to these leather saddles below,
they make brooks look very cheap, in price that is.

check these out:http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...EUMATIC+SADDLE

found these while searching for a b-17. and got one for $80.00(2mo. old) plus a second
saddle throne in, a SAN MARCO CARBON(3mos. old).
i saw something like that in a men's magazine once. they were much less expensive...
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Brooks saddles aren't overly expensive. They're pretty much middle-of-the-road when it comes to price.
+1 for a standard B17..
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Old 03-05-13, 08:53 AM   #8
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Brooks saddles aren't overly expensive. They're pretty much middle-of-the-road when it comes to price.
+1 more.

Price for all of mine is less than a penny per mile, and dropping. Well worth it.
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Old 03-06-13, 05:05 AM   #9
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I spent about $75 on my first one and put almost 50,000 km on it. 75/50,000 = $0.0015/km.
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Brooks saddles rose dramatically in price when they were taken over by Selle. This was done deliberately by the company in order to create a niche market in the USA and they succeeded with this by playing on the retro image. Before then they were very affordable and here in the UK were the benchmark for tourers.

A saddle which is comparable to the Brooks range in quality is sold by Spa Cycles. This was in response to the massive hike in Brooks prices. The saddles are made in the Far East I understand using Australian steer leather and are certainly reasonable in price. They are also waterproofed which some people would see as an advantage.

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products....=m2b0s204p2667
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That could be the same one Velo Orange sells , in the States..
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That could be the same one Velo Orange sells , in the States..
I think that they may be. I was impressed with the quality.
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I bought my $40 Pro and $65 Imperial narrow from CL. Both were new. Just saw a new B17S with box on CL yesterday for $70. This would be my upper limit on a new Brooks.
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Thank you for the link to Spa Cycles saddles -- I'm a Brooks user but wasn't aware of this shaped leather competitor.
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...A saddle which is comparable to the Brooks range in quality is sold by Spa Cycles. This was in response to the massive hike in Brooks prices. The saddles are made in the Far East I understand using Australian steer leather and are certainly reasonable in price. They are also waterproofed which some people would see as an advantage. http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products....=m2b0s204p2667
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That could be the same one Velo Orange sells , in the States..
Good price on a B17 clone, I'd buy it if I wanted (another) B17.

I suspect it is indeed the same maker as that of VO saddles, which sell for nearly the same price as Brooks now. The first VO saddles had a lot of returns for sag. Apparently the leather would sag in no time, unlike most Brooks which take longer to eventually, inevitably sag.

I don't like saggy saddles, and no longer use my B17 for this reason. I believe modern "plastic" saddles are less susceptible to sag, and prove to be a more comfortable, longer-lived and better value saddle.
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Good price on a B17 clone, I'd buy it if I wanted (another) B17.

I suspect it is indeed the same maker as that of VO saddles, which sell for nearly the same price as Brooks now. The first VO saddles had a lot of returns for sag. Apparently the leather would sag in no time, unlike most Brooks which take longer to eventually, inevitably sag.

I don't like saggy saddles, and no longer use my B17 for this reason. I believe modern "plastic" saddles are less susceptible to sag, and prove to be a more comfortable, longer-lived and better value saddle.
Believe me when I say the you are not likely to experience sag with the Spa saddles. They are made of a thicker leather than the Brooks and this has been treated so as to be more or less waterproof. I'd say the thickness is comparable to a Brooks Colt, which really is thick. The underside has been bonded with a tough waterproof membrane and the wings of the saddle, at least on the Tourist version, the Nidd, are perforated and tensioned together with cord. I found mine a bit too unforgiving as I'm accustomed to shaping and slightly softening all Brooks saddles before I ride them. However, I loosened the cord completely and made an incision in the top, similar to the Brooks Imperial, and I feel this has done the trick.

Your B17 can be re-tensioned by making a series of holes in the bottom of the wings and pulling these together by means of cord. This will tighten up the centre section increasing the rigidity.
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...Your B17 can be re-tensioned by making a series of holes in the bottom of the wings and pulling these together by means of cord. This will tighten up the centre section increasing the rigidity.
Thanks, that's good advice for anyone with a sagging tensioned leather saddle, in addition to the usual tension bolt uptake.

I "tied" mine years ago, and although it reduced the sag, I was still dissatisfied.
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The best way to combat leather sag is to lace the saddle starting 3.5" from the nose to about 1" from the rear metal frame (0.3" spacing with 14 evenly spaced holes). I keep the holes at 0.425" from bottom edge of the flap. Even my Brooks PRo is laced.
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