Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-11-13, 03:15 AM   #1
steltz02
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 68
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Butterfly/trekking handlebars, brakes and shifter configuration. What say you?

Hello touring folks.

I'm setting up a couple of bikes for long distance loaded touring.

Both bikes have been equipped with butterfly/trekking bars. The next question is setup.

I know alot depends on reach distance, preferences, etc. etc., but what is YOUR preferred configuration for shifters and brakes on your tourer and why?



or



or some other option?

Also on long distance touring is it beneficial to have a highly adjustable stem (both height and angle), or once you dial it in, is one configuration typically good enough?

Thanks for your input.

Ride on!!
steltz02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-13, 05:15 AM   #2
bradtx
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
Posts: 6,551
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
steltz02, In general I think that with any new set up there will be frequent adjustments whose frequency will taper off with saddle time into that ideal fit. An adjustable stem can be an asset.

Brad
bradtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-13, 05:24 AM   #3
gregw
Senior Member
 
gregw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 988
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have set them up both ways and didn't like either. For me the controls have to be in my optimum riding position and straight horizontal isn't optimal. Just not a natural position for me. So I switched to traditional touring bars with a swept back angle. Added a couple bar ends for a more stretched out option. This has worked great for me. Just something to consider.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg handlebar small.jpg (77.5 KB, 337 views)
gregw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-13, 06:20 AM   #4
VT_Speed_TR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Vermont
Bikes:
Posts: 732
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Here is how I set up my butterfly bars. I ride mostly on the cork grips and outboard curve, so I wanted the brake.shift controls close.

VT_Speed_TR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-13, 06:44 AM   #5
djyak
Senior Member
 
djyak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Yuba City, CA
Bikes: Cannondale M300 mountain, '72 German Kurfalz touring
Posts: 152
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by VT_Speed_TR View Post
Here is how I set up my butterfly bars. I ride mostly on the cork grips and outboard curve, so I wanted the brake.shift controls close.


That's the same setup I have, brakes and shifters close, and my bar is almost flat so I can reach/stretch out and cut down on some wind resistance. I love my trekking bars!
djyak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-13, 08:18 AM   #6
David Bierbaum
Senior Member
 
David Bierbaum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: St. Louis Metro East area
Bikes: 1992 Specialized Crossroads (red)
Posts: 1,512
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I put my brake levers far enough outboard that I can "fingertip" brake while my hands are on the sides. (yes, I know my tape wrapping is not a thing of beauty! Under the cork tape are old inner-tubes wrapped in the opposite direction. )

Of course this is my "everything" bike, so I mostly use it for commuting and errand running, so I haven't had to use it for extended periods very often, but it's been a fine setup the few times I have cruised the River-Road.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0319.jpg (98.3 KB, 431 views)

Last edited by David Bierbaum; 03-11-13 at 08:25 AM.
David Bierbaum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-15, 12:02 AM   #7
bikedobie
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Campbell CA
Bikes: Birdy
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Trekking handlebar set up

Quote:
Originally Posted by djyak View Post
That's the same setup I have, brakes and shifters close, and my bar is almost flat so I can reach/stretch out and cut down on some wind resistance. I love my trekking bars!
Hi,
Sorry, I just came across your post and would like to know what brand/model your trekking handlebar is?

Thanks!
bikedobie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-15, 04:37 AM   #8
ak08820
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Central NJ
Bikes: MGX MTB, Fuji Supreme, Miyata 90 and a Trek 700 in the works
Posts: 550
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That is an unusual application of the V brake noodles.
ak08820 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-15, 09:13 AM   #9
skookum
cyclotourist
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: calgary, canada
Bikes:
Posts: 575
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by VT_Speed_TR View Post
Here is how I set up my butterfly bars. I ride mostly on the cork grips and outboard curve, so I wanted the brake.shift controls close.

I had this set up, but I didnt like where the brakes are positioned, and I couldn't find another place for them that worked.
skookum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-15, 10:19 AM   #10
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,807
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 219 Post(s)
Hydraulic Brakes, Rohloff grip shifter , + Mirrycle Grip Bell. WB Bicycle Gallery: Robert Clark's Koga Miyata WTR

someone else : http://www.rodbikes.com/catalog/6-pa...erfly-bars.jpg ITM Synergic

another style . ITM Selego .. Have them but not on a Bike ... really adjustable .. one configuration shown.

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0...=1174272196000

Last edited by fietsbob; 04-17-15 at 10:25 AM.
fietsbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-15, 05:42 PM   #11
hujev
I'm one of the freaks.
 
hujev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: alaska, sometimes the UP
Bikes: 83 cannondale ST-500, Stumpjumpers: 82 tig'd; 82 lug'd; 84; 85 sport, 83 Univega Gran Turismo, 84 Trek 830, 85 Bianchi Grizzly, 86 Fuji Sundance, 86 Schwinn High Sierra, 85 Woodrup Giro Touring, 81 Mercian, 89 Trek 420, 05 LHT, '16 Woodrup on order..
Posts: 75
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


the way I've got mine (Kalloy AL-069 on Kalloy Al-222 stem).

The only thing frustrating on these bars is no decent mirror option - here I'm using the best I've found, the Ortlieb, but it vibrates something awful on the flimsy plastic arm... Maybe one day I'll make a bar mount for the Mirrycle mirror (the best mirror in my opinion; I use two on each of my touring bikes with rando bars and 'cable out the top' levers).

Mounted 'backwards' mainly due to cable routing issues off the brake levers, but similar f/r positions either way; I really like this setup.

[full info, more pix of bike: 1984 Trek 830 Frankenbike | rjl.us ]
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 700_4206.jpg (98.8 KB, 240 views)

Last edited by hujev; 12-24-15 at 06:32 PM. Reason: detail
hujev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-15, 05:49 PM   #12
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,807
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 219 Post(s)
WB Bicycle Gallery: Robert Clark's Koga Miyata WTR ITM-Koga Bars,
R'off Grip Shifter , Magura HS33 brakes , grip bell on the left, 2 layers of padded tape.
fietsbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-15, 06:49 PM   #13
WarrenR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Halifax, NS
Bikes: Peugeot Evasion
Posts: 113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Here is my setup, my LBS changed the stem so that my hands were in the same position as the straight bars that this replaced.

He also put an old brake hood on the bar with a Mirrycle cut off where it goes into a bar and bolted to the brake hood. Works very well and is farther out and better for viewing then my motorcycle mirrors.

It's tucked in out of the way in this picture that was taken during the winter on the rollers.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg BF-05-20150424.jpg (88.0 KB, 255 views)
WarrenR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-15, 08:48 PM   #14
saddlesores
Senior Member
 
saddlesores's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hainan, China
Bikes:
Posts: 1,527
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
current mirror is a poor replacement for the blackburn barend
model i had on the straight bars. this one for barends but
still works okay-ish. not as clear and more vibration.

really want something easily removable for sticking in bus
cargo bays, and having to switch sides when crossing borders.

have two future options.....hbar accessory clamp and this
takeoff mirror mount from an e-bike.


Attached Images
File Type: jpg Picture 1901.jpg (58.0 KB, 201 views)
File Type: jpg Picture 1900.jpg (83.6 KB, 217 views)
saddlesores is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-15, 11:25 PM   #15
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Bikes: Co-Motion Cascadia, 2012 Surly Disc Trucker, Specialized Langster, Cilo Dura-Ace 12 Speed Road Bike
Posts: 2,142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
I would probably do something like your first photo but with bar ends (like what you see on some MTN Bikes) at the front and I would use Paul Thumbies and Love Levers and Ergon grips (short for grip shifts) instead of the shifter/brake combo they use. I would use Lizard Skins DSP wrap around the rest of the bar and possibly good ole' cloth tape at the bar ends (which would be more like aero extensions.

However I don't know that I would go trekking/butterfly bars for mostly road touring. I might use them for off-roading.
veganbikes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-15, 01:11 AM   #16
Happy Feet
Senior Member
 
Happy Feet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Left Coast Canada
Bikes: Silver one, black one, blue one, maroon one, brown one... oh my!
Posts: 692
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC02642.jpg (98.7 KB, 220 views)
Happy Feet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-15, 06:42 AM   #17
Centaurious
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Pensacola FL
Bikes: 1984 Raleigh Kodiak , KHS Sierra Something
Posts: 118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I wish that I could find a set of bars like these. They are the only ones I have seen with an angle to the grip. This is from an image search for trekking bars.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg 5337939811_52bcc6ca1c_o.jpg (104.7 KB, 270 views)
Centaurious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-15, 07:36 AM   #18
staehpj1 
Senior Member
 
staehpj1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 8,838
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I never got comfy with my trekking bars and took them off. I think that the ones in the picture in post #17 might work out better for me, but I'd put the brakes on the swept back section.

Not sure if I could make it work, but if I had to use them, I might try to use STI brifters on the outside edge (where the swept back section is on the ones Centaurius pictured).

Personally I much prefer drops, I even have them on one of my MTBs and use them on technical single track.
staehpj1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-15, 08:56 AM   #19
Tandem Tom
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NE Ohio
Bikes: 1992 Serotta Colorado II,Co-Motion Speedster, Giant Escape Hybrid, 1977 Schwinn Super Le Tour
Posts: 1,293
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Have tekking bars on my LHT and have been kicking around a Jones "H" Bar.
Tandem Tom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-15, 09:43 AM   #20
Biketouringhobo
Banned.
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Riverside, CA
Bikes: Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008
Posts: 898
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by steltz02 View Post
Hello touring folks.

I'm setting up a couple of bikes for long distance loaded touring.

Both bikes have been equipped with butterfly/trekking bars. The next question is setup.

I know alot depends on reach distance, preferences, etc. etc., but what is YOUR preferred configuration for shifters and brakes on your tourer and why?



or



or some other option?

Also on long distance touring is it beneficial to have a highly adjustable stem (both height and angle), or once you dial it in, is one configuration typically good enough?

Thanks for your input.

Ride on!!
I am flat mtn handlebars with XT thumb shifters and Avid Speed dial brake levers
on my Surly LHT 26in 52cm 2008
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 11781666_10205639817528604_4007672135005439090_n.jpg (91.6 KB, 214 views)
Biketouringhobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-15, 03:01 PM   #21
balm426
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have a question for you guys using trekking bars.

My question is do you find a good flat spot for your hands? I have used them on the trainer a few days and can't seem to find a good comfortable spot. It almost feels like my hands are to big and always on a rounded part of the bar. Anyone else have this feeling or do I just need to use them more?
balm426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-15, 04:16 PM   #22
mstateglfr
Senior Member
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Bikes: '87 Miyata 912, '80 Schwinn Voyageur 11.8, '90 Fuji Saratoga, '90 Diamondback Ascent EX, Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4
Posts: 2,414
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by balm426 View Post
I have a question for you guys using trekking bars.

My question is do you find a good flat spot for your hands? I have used them on the trainer a few days and can't seem to find a good comfortable spot. It almost feels like my hands are to big and always on a rounded part of the bar. Anyone else have this feeling or do I just need to use them more?
The area on each side where the bar ends should be flat for a long enough part of the bar to place grips, so that area should be flat for your hands. Otherwise, yes most of the bars will have a curve one way or the other.
The nice thing about them that I like a lot is you can hold the sides of each bar and your hands are in a handshake position which is just like riding on the ramps or hoods of a drop bar.
mstateglfr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-15, 04:20 PM   #23
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 18,807
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 219 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Centaurious View Post
I wish that I could find a set of bars like these. They are the only ones I have seen with an angle to the grip. This is from an image search for trekking bars.

Order from European sellers , the bends you want dont cross the pond on their own , most stuff is Pac Rim to US west Coast.


As to flat spot dont turn the bar up too much and the whole sides of the bars can be flat enough..

but the stem height may need to raise the bar's center above the saddle ..

Last edited by fietsbob; 12-28-15 at 04:23 PM.
fietsbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-15, 05:40 PM   #24
Centaurious
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Pensacola FL
Bikes: 1984 Raleigh Kodiak , KHS Sierra Something
Posts: 118
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)



These are the only ones that I have seen where the ends of the bar are angled forward. All the other trekking bars you might as well be holding a straight bar with no bends. Here is an example,



I can't find a seller that has these and I have literally spent days looking at Dutch, German, British and any others to try to find them. Someone else's search for these dead ended with them maybe sold by a Dutch bike brand.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 5337939811_52bcc6ca1c_o.jpg (104.7 KB, 195 views)
File Type: jpg 38115.jpg (11.2 KB, 191 views)
Centaurious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-15, 10:31 AM   #25
balm426
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I will try raising the stem and laying the bars a little more parallel to the ground. I may have to scrap the idea but I really like the idea of having 3 good different spots for my hands.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
As to flat spot dont turn the bar up too much and the whole sides of the bars can be flat enough..

but the stem height may need to raise the bar's center above the saddle ..
balm426 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:33 AM.